Stocks and Options

[nawfoo]

Anyone invest in stocks and options? What are your moves and strategies? I just started investing 3 years ago and usually do the wheel strategy. Most of my positions are in Apple and cash secured puts on Ford. I got screwed with AMC and will likely be down $2000 when my cash secured puts clear.

 

[SeanIsElsewhere]

I invest in my teggy

 

[chopsuey34]

Anyone invest in stocks and options? What are your moves and strategies? I just started investing 3 years ago and usually do the wheel strategy. Most of my positions are in Apple and cash secured puts on Ford. I got screwed with AMC and will likely be down $2000 when my cash secured puts clear.

Post a valuation of Honda Motor Corp. What is your WACC? How much are you projecting earnings to grow by in the next 5 years?

 

[Clark_Kent]

Once upon a time I was heavy into trading options and individual securities. The precious metals rally from 2009 to 2012 and the early TSLA days were fun (and wildly profitable). Those days are behind me now. I now have a properly correlated portfolio and invest in other areas.

 

[crepr12]

Index funds invest monthly and reinvest all dividends.....Huge growth potential nope, slow and steady....Find ones with super low maintenance fees...Individual companies/stocks are for the major players...jmho.... Sun Devils...LOL...way way back in the day I spent about 7 years in Tucson....

 

[Liquid ITS 24]

twitter.com/cvotrades is my handle

 

[VarmintCong]

Once upon a time I was heavy into trading options and individual securities. The precious metals rally from 2009 to 2012 and the early TSLA days were fun (and wildly profitable). Those days are behind me now. I now have a properly correlated portfolio and invest in other areas.

PM mining stocks are again in the toilet like 2008, get back on that horse.

 

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I have been waiting for several years for this financial bubble (stock makret) to burst after strong QE policy but it hasn't yet. Still I think that the stocks are much too overpriced at the moment.

 

[VarmintCong]

I have been waiting for several years for this financial bubble (stock makret) to burst after strong QE policy but it hasn't yet. Still I think that the stocks are much too overpriced at the moment.

a lot of stocks and stock sectors did bust, like small caps. Sectors like cannabis and biotech are down like 80%. It’s only the large indexes like the S&P500 that has stayed high due to the top 7 stocks which are AI related tech stocks making up 40% of the index.

The markets have been waiting for 2 years for the Fed to turn dovish again, and they got their wish last week.

 

[toughkid]

I am planning too. tips and advice would be helpful

 

[SilverRocket]

PM mining stocks are again in the toilet like 2008, get back on that horse.

This is definitely NOT investment advice but I'm heavily into Silver (Precious metal). In my opinion it is the most manipulated commodity bar none and while gold is running at its all time high, silver has lagged for no good reason.


Considering that the equivalent of about a third of yearly supply is regularly shorted, combined with multi-year deficit where the world is using more silver than is mined, it's IMHO job st a matter of time before it shines, although it may yet be a long time coming.

Anyway, if I win the proverbial investment lottery and it does go to the moon, I know I will paying off my Lunar Silver ITS with the gains.

 

[VarmintCong]

This is definitely NOT investment advice but I'm heavily into Silver (Precious metal). In my opinion it is the most manipulated commodity bar none and while gold is running at its all time high, silver has lagged for no good reason.


Considering that the equivalent of about a third of yearly supply is regularly shorted, combined with multi-year deficit where the world is using more silver than is mined, it's IMHO job st a matter of time before it shines, although it may yet be a long time coming.

Anyway, if I win the proverbial investment lottery and it does go to the moon, I know I will paying off my Lunar Silver ITS with the gains.

I have a lot of junior silver (and gold) mining stocks, so I'm with you. Silver lags gold but when it gets going, the gains are impressive, and silver mining stocks go bananas. Extremely high risk though, and I use a couple paid newsletters.

I think silver is heavily manipulated (how many times has JP Morgan been fined for it, lol?) I don't think it's necessarily suppressed. But if gold continues to rally (after retesting the breakout maybe), silver will eventually top $30 - almost did it last month. Then it's off to the races.

 

[SilverRocket]

I have a lot of junior silver (and gold) mining stocks, so I'm with you. Silver lags gold but when it gets going, the gains are impressive, and silver mining stocks go bananas. Extremely high risk though, and I use a couple paid newsletters.

I think silver is heavily manipulated (how many times has JP Morgan been fined for it, lol?) I don't think it's necessarily suppressed. But if gold continues to rally (after retesting the breakout maybe), silver will eventually top $30 - almost did it last month. Then it's off to the races.

**Sorry in advance for the thread jacking, but it is a form of investment and I do think it's an important diversification for all to consider with their financial advisor**

Lol, it seems like you're on more or less the same page as I am, the question is now, how far have you ventured down the rabbit hole.

Might seem a little crazy but I'm fairly certain (but I'm still open to be proven otherwise) that silver has been kept under tight wraps since the Hunt brothers episode. 2011 was an anomaly when they temporarily lost control and look at the results.

The JPM and other institutional tomfoolery is coordinated because gold and silver is ultimately like the canary in the coal mine for the economy. With the financial irresponsibility of western nations and debt accumulation at an exponential rate since 2008, basically they've been surpressing it, equivalent to putting the canary on life support to keep the show going. The curtain is now slipping and China and India are gobbling up the real metals in massive amounts. On the Comex and at the LBMA they're having to play their games with even less physical backing and I think one day it's going to jump by a few dollars and then just keep going from there.

When that is who knows but it's like guessing when someone will surface for air. There are ways to postpone it however it'll happen eventually.

*Disclaimer* I am a random internet person providing his potentially very misguided guess on what the future hold. Markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. The above in not investment advise, just something to ponder for entertainment.

 

[VarmintCong]

**Sorry in advance for the thread jacking, but it is a form of investment and I do think it's an important diversification for all to consider with their financial advisor**

Lol, it seems like you're on more or less the same page as I am, the question is now, how far have you ventured down the rabbit hole.

Might seem a little crazy but I'm fairly certain (but I'm still open to be proven otherwise) that silver has been kept under tight wraps since the Hunt brothers episode. 2011 was an anomaly when they temporarily lost control and look at the results.

The JPM and other institutional tomfoolery is coordinated because gold and silver is ultimately like the canary in the coal mine for the economy. With the financial irresponsibility of western nations and debt accumulation at an exponential rate since 2008, basically they've been surpressing it, equivalent to putting the canary on life support to keep the show going. The curtain is now slipping and China and India are gobbling up the real metals in massive amounts. On the Comex and at the LBMA they're having to play their games with even less physical backing and I think one day it's going to jump by a few dollars and then just keep going from there.

When that is who knows but it's like guessing when someone will surface for air. There are ways to postpone it however it'll happen eventually.

*Disclaimer* I am a random internet person providing his potentially very misguided guess on what the future hold. Markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. The above in not investment advise, just something to ponder for entertainment.

Is it thread jacking to talk about stocks in a stock thread? Back in like 2016 when I got a field service job, I started listening to podcasts about mining stocks and financial stuff, but more of the apocalyptic genre. At first I listened to a lot of stuff from the "sky is falling" crowd like Peter Schiff, Jim Rickards etc. I'd listen to 2+ hrs a day of podcasts while driving.

Over the last 7-8 years I realized that many of these permabears are fun to listen to but don't give you any real useful information. Take the silver suppression theory - even if it's true, it isn't helpful as a precious metal investor. I think it's much more useful to look at silver in terms of fundamentals and technical charts - and if you do that, you can see that it has a long history of leading gold down in precious metal bear markets, and lagging gold at the start of bull markets. Once a gold bull market starts to attract generalist investors (not just people like you and me), then silver starts to catch fire and explodes beyond gold.

So even if you don't believe the conspiracy theories, silver is imo poised for another one of its huge bull markets, which have ranged from 300% to 800%. This would put silver at $50 ($12 to $50) minimum and $108 max. Higher if there's a lot of inflation.

And if silver goes to $50, a lot of silver mining stocks will go up 5-10x. Juniors might go up 50X. That's where I'm speculating.

 

[SilverRocket]

Is it thread jacking to talk about stocks in a stock thread? Back in like 2016 when I got a field service job, I started listening to podcasts about mining stocks and financial stuff, but more of the apocalyptic genre. At first I listened to a lot of stuff from the "sky is falling" crowd like Peter Schiff, Jim Rickards etc. I'd listen to 2+ hrs a day of podcasts while driving.

Over the last 7-8 years I realized that many of these permabears are fun to listen to but don't give you any real useful information. Take the silver suppression theory - even if it's true, it isn't helpful as a precious metal investor. I think it's much more useful to look at silver in terms of fundamentals and technical charts - and if you do that, you can see that it has a long history of leading gold down in precious metal bear markets, and lagging gold at the start of bull markets. Once a gold bull market starts to attract generalist investors (not just people like you and me), then silver starts to catch fire and explodes beyond gold.

So even if you don't believe the conspiracy theories, silver is imo poised for another one of its huge bull markets, which have ranged from 300% to 800%. This would put silver at $50 ($12 to $50) minimum and $108 max. Higher if there's a lot of inflation.

And if silver goes to $50, a lot of silver mining stocks will go up 5-10x. Juniors might go up 50X. That's where I'm speculating.

LOL. I've listened to them too. I don't think they're wrong, just misguided in trying to predict when. They explain the dynamics quite well and it's not their fault the Fed and other central banks are basically printing to oblivion to keep things rolling.

Anyway, Fortuna has been good to me, First Majestic is up and down although I did cash out at almost the recent top ($18 CDN) per share, bought back at $14 and $10.50 and I shit you not, I threw $500 fun bux at ADE.V because I literally woke up one day from a dream and that was the ticker stuck in my head. Was going to buy it regardless the sector but turns out it's another miner. It's teetering on oblivion at half a cent per share but it's more fun than betting on red at the casino.