DSC Sport Suspension Module for our cars!

[Maya@DSC]

No problem. Sometimes we just need to hear it out loud to make the final decision anyways! I agree, building the car a whole with the grip available is the right choice. I plan to use RE71RZ or RT660+ in 265/35/18. 15yrs of HPDE, driving schools has show how tires tech has come a long way!





might be worth a try just to fiddle!

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[ABPDE5]

@derbo904

My understanding (maybe @Maya@DSC can confirm) is that the DSC module can be used as an EDC canceller if you decide to move to coils later, so if you want to leave Ohlins "on the table", just picking up a DSC isn't "incompatible" with that path in the future. (A canceller kit is $500+ on its own.)

 

[Maya@DSC]

@derbo904

My understanding (maybe @Maya@DSC can confirm) is that the DSC module can be used as an EDC canceller if you decide to move to coils later, so if you want to leave Ohlins "on the table", just picking up a DSC isn't "incompatible" with that path in the future. (A canceller kit is $500+ on its own.)

This is true! I have quite a few customers (across makes) that use their controller for this purpose. It is significantly easier and much more reliable, since instead of installing a delete on each corner, you can just delete electronically at the source. And we have a five year warranty! IMO that more than makes up for the cost difference, especially since you can try it with your active coils first, or switch back later.

 

[derbo904]

@derbo904

My understanding (maybe @Maya@DSC can confirm) is that the DSC module can be used as an EDC canceller if you decide to move to coils later, so if you want to leave Ohlins "on the table", just picking up a DSC isn't "incompatible" with that path in the future. (A canceller kit is $500+ on its own.)

Oh that is interesting! I never liked the idea of cancellors. On my BMW, I coded out the electronics damping control module, so this is the next best thing! Thanks for that note!


@Maya@DSC I will have to reach out to check pricing! Thanks!

 

[Maya@DSC]

Breaking the rules a little, but I've shared our deal in classifieds! We seriously appreciate the engagement and community support, and want to make the product a little more accessible as the weather warms up and we all get a chance to get back on the road more often.

 

[derbo904]

Breaking the rules a little, but I've shared our deal in classifieds! We seriously appreciate the engagement and community support, and want to make the product a little more accessible as the weather warms up and we all get a chance to get back on the road more often.

ordered one for stock height! Thanks @Maya@DSC

Appreciate you, @ABPDE5 @Victorofhavoc discussing the other items of the suspension system.

 

[Underdog]

@APBonABP and @Kendal0 - any further feedback for those of us on stock suspension considering the DSC controller? Have you felt the need to fiddle with the calibration?

I drive in sport mode generally and feel it offers a good balance, with room in either direction to adjust if I’m feeling like a more relaxed ride, or sharper responses. I’m not really looking to dial in every parameter, but would appreciate a controller that takes advantage of the hardware’s capabilities.

 

[Tw1stedlog1k]

Personally I feel it wouldn't be worth the investment if you find the factory setup to be adequate and have no desire to improve on it. Then again that applies to any mod.

You'll definitely notice the changes on the supplied map but they're not transformative where you're getting Lexus-like ride quality (@optronix said this best). It just opens up the car to more; overall incrementally better on-road manners, incrementally more balance when braking and cornering, incrementally sharper response all around.

It's hard to put into words, kind of like the improvements you get from a short shifter. I'm sure once the collective gets more time with the unit and shares their settings this will change the reception from good to great.

 

[Maya@DSC]

Personally I feel it wouldn't be worth the investment if you find the factory setup to be adequate and have no desire to improve on it. Then again that applies to any mod.

You'll definitely notice the changes on the supplied map but they're not transformative where you're getting Lexus-like ride quality (@optronix said this best). It just opens up the car to more; overall incrementally better on-road manners, incrementally more balance when braking and cornering, incrementally sharper response all around.

It's hard to put into words, kind of like the improvements you get from a short shifter. I'm sure once the collective gets more time with the unit and shares their settings this will change the reception from good to great.

We are also always taking feedback! If you've got feedback please share it with us! We also hope to gather some more reviews during the HPDE event at VIR in May, which we hope to attend.

(This is the link to a Type R contingent, but we would love to get to work with more Type S! https://typertrackday.com/ )

 

[Underdog]

Personally I feel it wouldn't be worth the investment if you find the factory setup to be adequate and have no desire to improve on it. Then again that applies to any mod.

You'll definitely notice the changes on the supplied map but they're not transformative where you're getting Lexus-like ride quality (@optronix said this best). It just opens up the car to more; overall incrementally better on-road manners, incrementally more balance when braking and cornering, incrementally sharper response all around.

It's hard to put into words, kind of like the improvements you get from a short shifter. I'm sure once the collective gets more time with the unit and shares their settings this will change the reception from good to great.

Appreciate the response. Incremental improvement all around is what I'm looking for, rather than something transformative. I've gone down the suspension rabbit hole on my other cars and love the overall balance of the ITS, which is what makes the DSC controller so appealing - I can leave the hard parts alone and not open up a can of worms.

 

[Tw1stedlog1k]

We are also always taking feedback! If you've got feedback please share it with us! We also hope to gather some more reviews during the HPDE event at VIR in May, which we hope to attend.

(This is the link to a Type R contingent, but we would love to get to work with more Type S! https://typertrackday.com/ )

My biggest hope is that there's more take up so that we have much more community feedback. In turn this means more improvement and fine tuning of the product and settings.

 

[derbo904]

My biggest hope is that there's more take up so that we have much more community feedback. In turn this means more improvement and fine tuning of the product and settings.

I thought it is nice that there is a way to update the calibration file if further optimizations exists.

 

[APBonABP]

@APBonABP and @Kendal0 - any further feedback for those of us on stock suspension considering the DSC controller? Have you felt the need to fiddle with the calibration?

I drive in sport mode generally and feel it offers a good balance, with room in either direction to adjust if I’m feeling like a more relaxed ride, or sharper responses. I’m not really looking to dial in every parameter, but would appreciate a controller that takes advantage of the hardware’s capabilities.

It's been a bit warmer, so I've been able to put around 100-200 more miles on it. I personally find it to be a significant upgrade all around. I previously rode mostly in Comfort because I felt like the OEM Sport let a little too much of the harshness through in exchange for the relatively modest decrease in cornering roll. With the DSC module, Sport feels more compliant and less unsettled by bumps while still offering what feels to me like higher cornering stability, so I spend most of my time in that now.

Now I will admit I haven't tracked this car, or driven it anywhere close to even 9/10ths yet. I also personally prefer smaller comfort concessions to straight out handling (softer dampers, more sound deadening, power seats, etc.) - hence why I have an ITS and not a CTR. But my daily is a Lexus and I also find that to be too soft as it makes bumps feel like a boat hitting waves, instead of merely absorbing the impact.

I say all that to contextualize my subjectivity against others' and to acknowledge that my preferences may not be what everyone is looking for.

And lastly, at the end of the day, (and unlike many other suspension mods) it can be reversed in about 10-15 minutes. If it's not to your liking out-of-the-box or if improvements are made in the future, you can always apply those changes easily, too, so I'd definitely try it before anything more involved.

Hope this helps!

 

[optronix]

Appreciate the response. Incremental improvement all around is what I'm looking for, rather than something transformative. I've gone down the suspension rabbit hole on my other cars and love the overall balance of the ITS, which is what makes the DSC controller so appealing - I can leave the hard parts alone and not open up a can of worms.

Yeah I think the ease of installation and the price point make it an accessible mod that is about as close as you can get to a true "no-brainer". There really isn't any downside or side effects to a mod like this. It's all uphill.

And where I'll weigh in a bit more, is that the dynamic element does truly extract more out of the hardware. I stand by my initial assessment that the comfort level is still noticeably better in all modes (and no, it won't turn it into a Lexus but that's a good thing!)- but you have to drive it a bit in various conditions to start noticing how the car responds better. It is difficult to articulate- but I'd put it past a placebo effect because even yesterday driving in and out of ridiculous DC traffic, there were times I most certainly wasn't thinking about the DSC controller but then suddenly I hit a clean stretch of road with a couple curves, or take a sharp weird-angle turn at an accelerated (but legal...) pace to get ahead of a traffic light that I'm reminded how good this chassis feels. That happens significantly more often post-DSC than it did before.

The DSC has long been considered one of the best mods at any price in the P car world. I think it's getting pretty evident on this forum and the Civic forums is rapidly approaching that for this platform as well. If not already there.

Oh yeah and you can tweak it to your own specifications if you find it lacking in any way.

It's really a win-win mod.

 

[Victorofhavoc]

Yeah I think the ease of installation and the price point make it an accessible mod that is about as close as you can get to a true "no-brainer". There really isn't any downside or side effects to a mod like this. It's all uphill.

And where I'll weigh in a bit more, is that the dynamic element does truly extract more out of the hardware. I stand by my initial assessment that the comfort level is still noticeably better in all modes (and no, it won't turn it into a Lexus but that's a good thing!)- but you have to drive it a bit in various conditions to start noticing how the car responds better. It is difficult to articulate- but I'd put it past a placebo effect because even yesterday driving in and out of ridiculous DC traffic, there were times I most certainly wasn't thinking about the DSC controller but then suddenly I hit a clean stretch of road with a couple curves, or take a sharp weird-angle turn at an accelerated (but legal...) pace to get ahead of a traffic light that I'm reminded how good this chassis feels. That happens significantly more often post-DSC than it did before.

The DSC has long been considered one of the best mods at any price in the P car world. I think it's getting pretty evident on this forum and the Civic forums is rapidly approaching that for this platform as well. If not already there.

Oh yeah and you can tweak it to your own specifications if you find it lacking in any way.

It's really a win-win mod.

The Fl5 ads is tuned sharper in every way than the De5. The Fl5 is also tuned very well to make the most out of a 200tw tire. The dampening can probably handle a 100tw or a few slower slicks without issue. I just wouldn't drive on it on the road. The Fl5 ads and a 200tw tire on a chipsealed road will make your head buzz, especially if carrying any gear in back.

If the dsc controller can work on both ends of the range (and it should), it would eliminate ads swaps for someone like me... That's a good 15 mins of my time back twice a weekend, 8 - 10 weekends per year. I'll take 4 hrs back; cheaper than what I charge for that time

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