6MT stock clutch longevity

[optronix]

Lol clutch lasting 50k = L2D

Only ever had to replace a clutch someone else fucked up. Yes I race my cars.

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[UWU-mancer]

What the hell is L2D?!

 

[whtciv2k]

I can’t speak for these newer cars but I’ve put 100k miles or more on my manual cars before getting rid of them. Usually during trade in, they would ask when I changed the clutch since it feels good and grabs well. They usually are shocked to know it’s the factory clutch. I do drive my cars hard, downshift a lot, and engine brake a ton. I don’t really do burnouts and dump the clutch from a dig tho. It’s all about how much u do or don’t ride the clutch as you drive.

 

[optronix]

What the hell is L2D?!

Learn 2 Drive lol.

We can have a discussion around "technique" all day long but I think it breaks down to simple mistakes people probably don't realize they're making. I've heard of people absent-mindedly resting their foot on the clutch while cruising- that'll do it. Probably a myriad of variations to this move that ruins clutches prematurely. Also, one or two seriously bad mistakes can reduce a clutch's life significantly in an instant. One thing I'm not proud of is how I snapped a front axle shaft on an Eagle Talon TSi/AWD dumping the clutch at 6k rpm. That goes the other way with extra slipping and the clutch's life expectancy drops by 50%. Fortunately I learned my lesson that day but I've also heard of and even witnessed people doing this to M cars, Porsches, etc. (a McLaren at a cars and coffee IIRC...).

L2D.

 

[SeanIsElsewhere]

That’s what my son did on his 10gen si coupe. Even the w2 turbo swap doesn’t challenge it.

Good to hear that even with the bolt-ons, the exedy clutch stands tall!

 

[UWU-mancer]

Learn 2 Drive lol.

We can have a discussion around "technique" all day long but I think it breaks down to simple mistakes people probably don't realize they're making. I've heard of people absent-mindedly resting their foot on the clutch while cruising- that'll do it. Probably a myriad of variations to this move that ruins clutches prematurely. Also, one or two seriously bad mistakes can reduce a clutch's life significantly in an instant. One thing I'm not proud of is how I snapped a front axle shaft on an Eagle Talon TSi/AWD dumping the clutch at 6k rpm. That goes the other way with extra slipping and the clutch's life expectancy drops by 50%. Fortunately I learned my lesson that day but I've also heard of and even witnessed people doing this to M cars, Porsches, etc. (a McLaren at a cars and coffee IIRC...).

L2D.

Thnx! But damn dude I feel like no one would’ve known what that shit meant

 

[optronix]

Thnx! But damn dude I feel like no one would’ve known what that shit meant

I kind of post sometimes to amuse myself and myself only.

 

[Victorofhavoc]

Like everyone said, driver and torque dependent.

With these full face organic clutches there's always some wear under power, even when not slipping. Just the nature of having a clutch that doesn't jerk you around and act like an on/off switch. The low rpm and high torque nature of how turbo power comes on doesn't help things.

For most newbies to manuals I've found they create the most wear slipping too long and too high rpm in first when setting off then second is releasing the clutch too fast on downshifts. 1500+ rpm and 3s of feathering the clutch to set off will dramatically shorten life when someone is doing it 12 times a day. Keep it under 1k rpm and a second of slip max and the clutch will last a lot longer.

 

[boosted_canoe]

Like everyone said, driver and torque dependent.

With these full face organic clutches there's always some wear under power, even when not slipping. Just the nature of having a clutch that doesn't jerk you around and act like an on/off switch. The low rpm and high torque nature of how turbo power comes on doesn't help things.

For most newbies to manuals I've found they create the most wear slipping too long and too high rpm in first when setting off then second is releasing the clutch too fast on downshifts. 1500+ rpm and 3s of feathering the clutch to set off will dramatically shorten life when someone is doing it 12 times a day. Keep it under 1k rpm and a second of slip max and the clutch will last a lot longer.

if it's not slipping, how is it wearing?

 

[Victorofhavoc]

if it's not slipping, how is it wearing?

It's load vs no load. With any load the friction material flexes and heats up. There's tiny flexion and constant movement. More torque means more load.

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