What are the odds/chances Acura makes a 2-door coupe next year for the Integra?

[ABPDE5]

I got over excited with the FL5 and admired it so much. I guess I made a mistake. I don't know. They are relatively affordable compared to Porsche cars, so I just jumped on it because they reminded me of Porsche GT cars, believe it or not, lol.

You're right, I can see the motivation and reason in owning both a 911 GT3 and a 911 Turbo. That would be a more logical scenario. Hopefully I can add more variety like that down the line. Maybe two of those P cars, a Lambo, etc... Yet that will be bigger money and bigger losses, so not sure if I'm ready to gamble (or afford) that much down the line. We will see.

You're right, I personally can only drive one car at a time. That's a big limitation and the extra of the same car is just sitting there. Maybe I can teach my kids to start driving them and using them.

Sorry for the thread jack. Please feel free to PM me or I can PM you.

One to daily... one to fund 4Piston

 

[ST675R]

There are certain elements that aren't as hideous as I let on so I can understand why at first glance some folks may not be completely repelled by it... but overall yeah it's a pretty bad render.

Whoever did this one has a much better eye, but admittedly they had a lot more to work with considering the car they took an already great design and just morphed two doors off of it.

Always a huge spoiler in these renderings. Appeal of the ITS for many people is that it's more mature looking than the CTR while still having fun design elements. ..but I guess mature isn't the point here since everything else is gold.

 

[Azkyrie6]

It's not that all performance vehicles will be EV or that ICE vehicles will go exist. That isn't the goal, nor should it be the goal. In the future, it'll just make a lot more sense to get an EV or at least a hybrid/PHEV.

EV prices are coming down. Only more infrastructures will be built. Gas prices will likely look up as we drill less and import less from the Middle East and they decrease supply to keep up. Legislation may make ICEs more expensive to register, own, repair, etc. Dealership mark-ups have only helped. For more average consumers, it won't make sense to get an ICE over whatever entry EV exist. It already doesn't for many middle-class families whose goals are cost and convenience. Grid expansion and upgrades are already in effect.

Again, this is not to say ICEs will cease to exist. Anyone who absolutely need range, or lives in an apartment or area with few chargers will be hold-outs and that's perfectly fine. Some performance models will continue to be ICE. Many will simply not like EV powertrains and that's fine.

For my own parents, I plan on getting them an EV or PHEV. There's virtually 0 chance or reason to get them a traditional ICE unless I was strapped for cash and get a used vehicle instead.

If it were up to me, I'd skip EVs entirely and invest heavily into public transit. Most transit is to get to work or the grocery store. It's incredibly easy to funnel people into places they'll work. The benefits are endless from improved mobility leading to social mobility, more expendable money to stimulate the economy, less people buying overpriced vehicles, insurance, maintenance, and fuel, less emissions, AND the roads are freed up. Cars would still exist, there'd just be less of them. Instead of a three car household, we could be a one-car household. Countries like Japan and parts of Europe have great car culture AND public transportation. It's absolutely possible.

I love your vision but, America.

I just can't see it, no more than I can see an America with less guns. Or free healthcare. It's too "socialist" a concept for the masses to buy in. In this multiverse timeline, at least.

It’s a topic that’s been rehashed over and over. You can have many charging stations but it all falls back to power generation and transmission. We won’t magically generate enough electricity to sustain a switchover from combustion engines to EV. I work in the hydroelectric industry and all renewables are meant as a supplement to abiotic fuels, not a replacement.

Secondly, for a certain demographic EV’s could make sense. But the people who rent, shares housing, don’t have their own garage and park on the street, EV’s don’t make a lot of sense. It remains for a class of people who own their house.

Toyota the #1 automaker has boldly double downed:

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/202...ce-people-to-buy-evs-n4925794#google_vignette

https://fortune.com/asia/2024/01/24...ism-thirty-percent-battery-electric-cars/amp/

There’s a market for people who want EV’s. There will be other technologies. But ICE isn’t going away any time soon. Toyota and Honda aren’t going full electric but rather hybrid in the near term and exploring a combination of hydrogen ICE engines, solid state batteries, and fuel cells.

Of all of those, we will see those technologies integrated with gas engines

Grid expansion and upgrades are already in effect.

This is a drop in the bucket. This was nothing more than an extension replacement of E.O 13920 that doesn't address the root of the issue:
https://www.federalregister.gov/doc.../securing-the-united-states-bulk-power-system
https://www.power-grid.com/policy-r...-the-grid-getting-too-smart-for-its-own-good/
1.5T Infrastructure Plan (canned)
https://www.constructiondive.com/ne...n-could-generate-26m-construction-job/524470/

The cost to upgrade and expand the US transmission grid is astronomically higher. Just reducing congestion alone is $20B as a temporary measure:
https://gridstrategiesllc.com/wp-co...ission-Congestion-Costs-in-the-U.S.-RTOs1.pdf

Federal Transmission Grid Study
https://www.ferc.gov/sites/default/files/2020-04/transmission-grid.pdf
https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy22osti/81662.pdf
https://www.spglobal.com/commodityi...s-seen-outpacing-electricity-production-costs

These projects would costs us trillions of dollars and decades to complete. We have neither the money nor the time to make this happen any time soon.

TLDR: Energy independence -> generate our own revenue to rebuild and bolster our critical infrastructure power grid the right way. NOT artificially bring up the demand for electricity that our grid cannot support or sustain. This only passes the cost of both electricity and natural resources to consumers and taxpayers

 

[ChromaPop]

Gr86, brz, Miata, Nissan z, mustang , camaro (will be discontinued soon), supra (new or used), cayman (used), and maybe more?

Ford's Chief just recently said the V8 is here to stay, so the Mustang is too it seems.

 

[lumper]

Fair point.

I have a Nissan Z as well (Performance and Nismo). They are sweet.

My 07" Solar orange with white pearl metalflake.

 

[Fanatic]

My 07" Solar orange with white pearl metalflake.

Love it! : )

 

[lumper]

Love it! : )

Thanks, we love it too, have had it 10 years, put 150k on it as a daily and have only had to replace a clutch once and the radiator.
The car has been bullet proof.

 

[pomegranate]

It’s a topic that’s been rehashed over and over. You can have many charging stations but it all falls back to power generation and transmission. We won’t magically generate enough electricity to sustain a switchover from combustion engines to EV. I work in the hydroelectric industry and all renewables are meant as a supplement to abiotic fuels, not a replacement.

Secondly, for a certain demographic EV’s could make sense. But the people who rent, shares housing, don’t have their own garage and park on the street, EV’s don’t make a lot of sense. It remains for a class of people who own their house.

Toyota the #1 automaker has boldly double downed:

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/202...ce-people-to-buy-evs-n4925794#google_vignette

https://fortune.com/asia/2024/01/24...ism-thirty-percent-battery-electric-cars/amp/

There’s a market for people who want EV’s. There will be other technologies. But ICE isn’t going away any time soon. Toyota and Honda aren’t going full electric but rather hybrid in the near term and exploring a combination of hydrogen ICE engines, solid state batteries, and fuel cells.

Of all of those, we will see those technologies integrated with gas engines



This is a drop in the bucket. This was nothing more than an extension replacement of E.O 13920 that doesn't address the root of the issue:
https://www.federalregister.gov/doc.../securing-the-united-states-bulk-power-system
https://www.power-grid.com/policy-r...-the-grid-getting-too-smart-for-its-own-good/
1.5T Infrastructure Plan (canned)
https://www.constructiondive.com/ne...n-could-generate-26m-construction-job/524470/

The cost to upgrade and expand the US transmission grid is astronomically higher. Just reducing congestion alone is $20B as a temporary measure:
https://gridstrategiesllc.com/wp-co...ission-Congestion-Costs-in-the-U.S.-RTOs1.pdf

Federal Transmission Grid Study
https://www.ferc.gov/sites/default/files/2020-04/transmission-grid.pdf
https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy22osti/81662.pdf
https://www.spglobal.com/commodityi...s-seen-outpacing-electricity-production-costs

These projects would costs us trillions of dollars and decades to complete. We have neither the money nor the time to make this happen any time soon.

TLDR: Energy independence -> generate our own revenue to rebuild and bolster our critical infrastructure power grid the right way. NOT artificially bring up the demand for electricity that our grid cannot support or sustain. This only passes the cost of both electricity and natural resources to consumers and taxpayers

I don't remember your point, but if it's ICEs aren't going away then literally nobody is saying they are.

 

[pomegranate]

I love your vision but, America.

I just can't see it, no more than I can see an America with less guns. Or free healthcare. It's too "socialist" a concept for the masses to buy in. In this multiverse timeline, at least.

I mean, it's already happening. Tesla Model 3's have replaced the Camry in Southern California. I'm not saying Joe Blow from rural Iowa's suppose to take an EV, I'm not, but significant numbers in metro populations where people aren't taking 100+ mile trips will being opting in including myself in the future, Tesla or not. For the 10th time as well, ICEs are staying as well nor are EVs "taking over the world." These discussions always go too far in one way or another. It's perfectly acceptable to believe EVs and ICEs will coexist.

My personal goal is to one day get solar panals, pay 0 on electricity while charging an EV. I plan to have a fun car, but use an EV for the daily commute. Yes, I'd love to get a Lexus IS-F and daily that instead while hearing the purr of the v8 every morning, but I can't seriously swallow the cost of gas. Before that though, I'd love to daily the ITS to get a bit of both.