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[optronix]

It is a loud car. Interior noise is not very subdued. And IMHO the stereo is not that great. And the ride quality is better than a (stock) FL5, but that's a low bar.

Other than that, there isn't really much competition if you want a car that does all the "driving" stuff right, while maintaining as much practicality as all but the biggest SUVs and minivans.

Still very happy with my car, and honestly the way I have it set up I probably have lost most if not all interest in any spicier variant (e.g., rumored HRC or PMC edition).

From a serial car "destination anxiety" addict- this one's a keeper.

 

[porkster]

It is a loud car. Interior noise is not very subdued. And IMHO the stereo is not that great. And the ride quality is better than a (stock) FL5, but that's a low bar.

Other than that, there isn't really much competition if you want a car that does all the "driving" stuff right, while maintaining as much practicality as all but the biggest SUVs and minivans.

Still very happy with my car, and honestly the way I have it set up I probably have lost most if not all interest in any spicier variant (e.g., rumored HRC or PMC edition).

From a serial car "destination anxiety" addict- this one's a keeper.

I'm glad they're addressing the ride quality. Normally other reviews says it's "comfortable" but I disagree. The ride is stiff. If you live around bad roads or urban settings, it's a bit much. My 997.2 C4S with PASM and a DSC module rode better and obviously handled well.

I have been looking more and more into the CT4V Blackwing, nearly all reviews seem to believe the ride quality is magic, it offers a great 6 speed, has more power, RWD. Just has a terrible backseat, has a trunk vs a hatch, and I don't love the looks.

 

[optronix]

I'm glad they're addressing the ride quality. Normally other reviews says it's "comfortable" but I disagree. The ride is stiff. If you live around bad roads or urban settings, it's a bit much. My 997.2 C4S with PASM and a DSC module rode better and obviously handled well.

I have been looking more and more into the CT4V Blackwing, nearly all reviews seem to believe the ride quality is magic, it offers a great 6 speed, has more power, RWD. Just has a terrible backseat, has a trunk vs a hatch, and I don't love the looks.

I flirted with the idea of the CT4V BW but passed (again- I considered it initially) because end of the day, it's a Cadillac. The ride I'm sure is great, and the drivetrain being RWD and a V6 I'm sure is a step up from the Type S and I've even heard the shifter is great... but the chassis feel and steering is just too important to me, and too good in the Type S. And I like the way the Blackwings look, but I can't see myself driving one.

The CT5V though, if I was in a position to spend over $100k on my "daily", non-toy car I'd have to take a deep look. But for now I can't justify the leap in cost.

Funny you mention 991.2, I had a C2S but with SPASM and a DSC. The DSC made a world of difference to the point where I could leave it on in Sport+ all day and not hate life, but I realized after a couple coffee runs that the ride was just too compromised to make a satisfying daily driver. I'm sure the PASM was much more livable.

The cupholder situation in the 9x1 generation Porsches didn't help matters any either.

I'd put that car at about equal with the way my car is currently set up with stock dampers and Eibach Pro-kit springs. But the cup holders are better so I can live with it.

 

[Victorofhavoc]

I'm glad they're addressing the ride quality. Normally other reviews says it's "comfortable" but I disagree. The ride is stiff. If you live around bad roads or urban settings, it's a bit much. My 997.2 C4S with PASM and a DSC module rode better and obviously handled well.

I have been looking more and more into the CT4V Blackwing, nearly all reviews seem to believe the ride quality is magic, it offers a great 6 speed, has more power, RWD. Just has a terrible backseat, has a trunk vs a hatch, and I don't love the looks.

It's a well dampened car. It's still a stupid stiff spring rate and bar for a factory car. To be fair, this is not intended to be a luxury vehicle or nice road car, it's intended (as the suspension and alignment are written) to be driven very hard. The ct4v would feel far more compromised far more quickly on a track, but it's a much better highway blaster. Its probably feels very comfortable to those living in the south or southwest, though. They have tremendously better roads than the Salt belt up.

Agreed with Optronix that the stereo is meh. Turn it up and the mids and treble pierce your ears. Turn it down and the mids disappear while the bass starts to boom. There's just no happy medium it seems. It's the first car in years that I've contemplated replacing it all.

 

[optronix]

It's a well dampened car. It's still a stupid stiff spring rate and bar for a factory car. To be fair, this is not intended to be a luxury vehicle or nice road car, it's intended (as the suspension and alignment are written) to be driven very hard. The ct4v would feel far more compromised far more quickly on a track, but it's a much better highway blaster. Its probably feels very comfortable to those living in the south or southwest, though. They have tremendously better roads than the Salt belt up.

Agreed with Optronix that the stereo is meh. Turn it up and the mids and treble pierce your ears. Turn it down and the mids disappear while the bass starts to boom. There's just no happy medium it seems. It's the first car in years that I've contemplated replacing it all.

I think the stereo makes a good first impression, but compared to ACTUALLY good stereos it's not even close.

I too have considered upgrading, but it's also not terrible enough for me to justify the rabbit hole I'm sure I'd go down if I started. I'd end up sinking at least $5k in it because I surely wouldn't be pulling the interior apart myself, and I'd want all top-shelf shit.

 

[StingertimeNC]

Our cars are too loud to appreciate a great system. Then you'd have to add in lots of sound deadening and stuff. Major rabbit hole.

 

[Frenzal]

I have both an ITS and a TLX-S, and the TLX-S sound system is way better. Probably a combination of a real trunk (for bass) and better insulation in the car.

 

[crepr12]

I heard camrys, lacs and lexos are soft and quiet...idk choices

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