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First winter drive in my 25 Type S

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if it's under 40 out the PS4's will be HORRIBLE even if its dry out Under 40 in wet or snow is asking for an accident to happen. I can't speak to the Hakka's as I've never heard of them.
The hakka r5 is a top tier ice and snow tire. Hakkapeliita is the full name of the brand. I put them up there with blizzaks for winter, and some of the hakka options blow the blizzak options out of the water.

The r5 (and most ice and snow tires) like:
0 degrees camber
below 6 degrees castor
moderate toe in

... An alignment spec the ITS does not come even close to meeting from factory.

Anything beyond -0.7 degree camber starts to spell trouble and impacts traction dramatically on Ins tires. You can fight a bit of that by lowering tire pressure a ton (think 20psi low).
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So we had another snow storm here in MN last night. (Shocker I know) It dropped about 7" of powder on us. I was a bit hesitant to take the car out but I gotta go to work, lol.
Turned traction control off. It handled beautifully through the powder and slushy mess that is created from multiple people plowing through the snow.
Traction Control off for people that are struggling. I still feel the Traction control system is WAY too intrusive and cuts power when you should be adding power in my opinion.
It honestly changed my opinion about this car entirely. The Artwork V2 helps now that the back end isn't so bland anymore as well. Felt like a road warrior again in the snow and that is a good feeling to get back.
@Victorofhavoc What he mentioned about the Hakkapelita is spot on. Hakka's are the ONLY tire I will buy if they are offered in the size I need for winter tires.
FWD is much different than I am used to and just took some time with the car to learn the dynamics of it.
The Hakka R5's are relatively new and came out I believe 2 years ago. I had never heard of this brand either until I got my RS3 and had Hakka R3's on it. Blows Blizzak out of the water. Not even a comparison in my eyes.
 

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Traction Control off for people that are struggling. I still feel the Traction control system is WAY too intrusive and cuts power when you should be adding power in my opinion.
This is so weird to me because I have the opposite experience. We even have the same model year. Did you give a thought to replicating the settings I posted a picture of from my "individual" mode at all? I don't know if they influence the TC. Maybe I should try driving in one of the standard modes next time. All of our snow/ice melted off yesterday so I'll have to wait.
 
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@Spart I drive in Individual all of the time and use those exact same settings. It is odd how two cars could have such a different experience being the same model year. I tried all of the function modes and did not notice any difference other than in comfort which I found you have to give it a bit more gas.
 

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@Spart I drive in Individual all of the time and use those exact same settings. It is odd how two cars could have such a different experience being the same model year. I tried all of the function modes and did not notice any difference other than in comfort which I found you have to give it a bit more gas.
Absolutely bizzare.
 

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Depends on what you are used to. The traction control is way less intrusive on the ITS than on my old 05 Accord or 14 Fit. So depends on your past experiences I guess.
 

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Depends on what you are used to. The traction control is way less intrusive on the ITS than on my old 05 Accord or 14 Fit. So depends on your past experiences I guess.
I honestly think my particular example is quite liberal. It allows a good amount of wheel spin. If I'm not being a complete unhinged discontent, I don't even notice it working.

I have to partially disable the traction control in my Tacoma frequently in snowy weather in order to use 2WD, so I do get the concept of what's going on. I just wonder if @STi from DSM 's car is the odd one out or if mine is, somehow.
 

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I find the ITS traction control to be relatively unobtrusive. Obviously, if the wheels have lost traction, it will intervene at some point. But mine allows a fair amount of spin before intervening. I suppose, if you have aggressive winter tires, then a certain amount of constant spin might allow them to dig down faster and find traction, which might be easier to
do with TC off. Just guessing, sounds odd.
 

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I leave the traction on when driving in snow. No need to turn it off unless you’re stuck in snow. Y’all are strange 😂
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