DSC Sport Suspension Module for our cars!

[ashmostro]

https://www.dscsport.com/products/acura-integra-type-s

I was just futzing around and noticed that DSC Sport has a module "coming soon" for our cars. If anyone has owned a car covered by DSC and tried their modules, you'll know that it's transformational.

Does anyone know anything more about this product's release date? I'm going to email them and ask!

-Ash

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[Tw1stedlog1k]

Oh wow nice find! Personally I find the factory setup to be really good but this would be great for those that like to tinker!

 

[ashmostro]

Have you ever driven a car that has one? It's really mind blowing. The unit uses g forces and other input signals (steering angle, throttle position, etc) to factor into the damping in realtime. When you're driving over bumps casually, it knows to soften up the damping to soak them up, and then if you suddenly brake, or steer sharply, it pre-emptively adds significant damping to reduce dive and roll, etc. It's basically active damping.

 

[Tw1stedlog1k]

I can't say I have but I would think the factory unit already does some of that, and I feel it does it pretty well. Still, curious to know more about this unit though. It sounds like will allow more fine tuning and I'm sure it will come with some nice presets as well. Personally I don't know if the juice is worth the squeeze, I'll be looking forward to feedback from owners like you who will likely put these mods to use much more than I would.

 

[ashmostro]

Most factory units do a very small portion of what these do. The programmability is definitely nice, but seriously, the out of the box tuning is revolutionary compared to OE control units. On the C7 and porsche platforms, it feels as if not more meaningful than expensive coilovers.

 

[optronix]

Yeah it's been "coming soon" for quite some time now. I had one in a 991.2 Carrera S with SPASM and it was a transformational mod, especially considering the price. ~$1400 isn't cheap, but stack that up to a set of coilovers and it becomes very appealing.

Basically it's just "more" of what the factory units offer. I know Porsche speak can be confusing for anyone who doesn't live on Rennlist, so for my 911, the "SPASM" I'm referring to is an available "sports" option that adds more aggressive springs/dampers and an additional 10mm lower ride height above and beyond what's offered with the "normal" Porsche Active Stability Management (PASM) option. Porsche on average are far above average when it comes to delivering uncompromising performance while still maintaining daily livability, but the SPASM in Sport+ mode was a punishing ride, so I didn't touch that option on the street.

Until I got the DSC! I could leave it in the most aggressive setting and the dampers just magically adjusted to not only make the ride more tolerable, but based on active inputs while I'm driving.

I'm not quite sure how this will translate the DE5, but based on past performance I'm excited to give it a try. BUT- in my case since I've already added springs, I'll probably explore having it custom-tuned directly by the folks at DSC. For anyone in the vicinity, they're located in Jessup, MD.

They also have far more holistic suspension options that I've also been considering, but they're pretty serious and I'm not quite sure my use case will match the intensity. Also, just being honest but the delay is pretty concerning. I can't remember the exact timing, but I do recall posting about this on both this and the Civic forums and it was quite some time ago- if I were to guess probably at least 6 months it's been sitting there with the "coming soon" page. Maybe something happened during the development cycle that's causing the delay, who knows...

Also, their site appears to be in a transitory state- I've looked at their standalone adaptive suspension kits in the past but the page is broken at this moment. As I mentioned they're pretty serious and probably approach the 5 figure mark all in, not sure this is the appropriate platform for that in my case but still very interesting options for those who have that desire to take this platform as far as it will go.

For anyone interested, these are their coilover "kits" for specific platforms, to give you a sense of what's in the art of the possible for the DE5/FL5: https://www.dscsport.com/dsc-active-suspension-packages/

 

[ashmostro]

I ran tractive coilovers on my M2cs! (no DSC module though)

That delay is concerning... They probably didn't get the reception they hoped for

 

[optronix]

I ran tractive coilovers on my M2cs! (no DSC module though)

That delay is concerning... They probably didn't get the reception they hoped for

Interesting that one of the only reasons to pick a CS over a regular ass Competition is the dampers... which you said GTFOH anyway lol. I can't necessarily argue though because I'm sure the tractives are a categorical upgrade...

I'll try to muster up the willpower to head out to TPC Racing and ask directly about the status in the next week or so. I'll provide an update if I get one.

 

[creaturemachine]

Does the car actually do some active dampening or just switch between the three static states? I'd be curious to know if the factory struts can handle a higher duty cycle of a full-time active system if they are only built to just switch between static positions.

 

[Victorofhavoc]

Does the car actually do some active dampening or just switch between the three static states? I'd be curious to know if the factory struts can handle a higher duty cycle of a full-time active system if they are only built to just switch between static positions.

My understanding is the type r/s dampeners are fully adaptive but not fully active. Unlike super high end systems which actively push/pull the strut regardless of the spring rate, this system reacts to the spring rate, movement of the lower control arm, yaw, g, speed, and throttle/brake input. It is reactive, but not proactive. Very Important distinction.

It does not simply set a rate and call it a day based on drive mode. It is adapting as you go. It is variable in both compression and rebound, separately in both high and low speed.

I will say, I've felt the dsc system on a c7 vs stock c7 and there was definitely a solid difference. I did try dsc on a custom coil setup on my gti and I did not get the results I was looking for. I would bet on a fully stock setup it would probably have been fine, but my specific custom setup did not improve anything I wanted it to.

Source: https://global.honda/en/tech/Adaptive_Damper_System_ADS/

 

[porkster]

I had the DSC module on my Porsche 911 4S 997.2. It was a significant difference especially in the sport mode. For the comfort mode, it basically allowed twice the range so the ride was indeed more comfortable. The sport was significantly more comfortable -something about instead of stiffening all four corners all the time, it made all four corners reactive. Also, it's a 5 minute installation and can be reverted just as easy.

 

[2012Baja]

For anyone interested in this I contacted DSC Sport on these and they expect to have them out before the end of the year. I will probably pick one up...

 

[ashmostro]

Thanks!!

 

[Victorofhavoc]

For anyone interested in this I contacted DSC Sport on these and they expect to have them out before the end of the year. I will probably pick one up...

Did they say what they'll charge? 1500?

 

[2012Baja]

I did not inquire about the price but I can only assume it will be in the 1500 range..

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