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I read that article and was going to post too...

I wonder if "sold" means sold to customers or sold/delivered to dealerships who have technically bought the cars initially? In the latter case, cars can still be sitting on dealership lots/showrooms.

In the same article, 3315 Type-R's were sold.
 

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What bugs me is the 1% mischaracterization. In reality I don't care how many they sell or don't sell but I think what bugs me is the pervasive twist the media puts on everything, car news not being immune to it either.

The civic is a hyper popular car and literally 99% of people are just looking to buy a reliable car that gets them from A to B.

The way they write it, it seems as if nobody wants the CTR instead of explaining it's purposely being limited by Honda. I'm almost sure if Honda said we'll make as many of these as people want, ADM would disappear overnight favoring dealers who will move high volume at MSRP and that number might even go up to 5%.

A fair comparison would be to judge it against other similarly special editions based on very popular vehicles and I think there's no better comparison than the F-150 to the Raptor.
 

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My takeaway was:
If you extrapolate ITS numbers out over 12 months of production (instead of 7), we are likely looking at similar ITS production rates to NA CTR allocations. This prediction was floating around, but had yet to be confirmed.
 

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Of the CTR's sold, how many where in the U.S. though? Those are worldwide numbers, right?

ITS has already sold far more than CTR in the states I think.
 

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Pretty sure that’s Honda North America numbers only, worldwide the CTR is much higher I’m sure. Didn’t Japan have like some crazy number of orders locally or something? Also looks like Acura is building less that the CTR’s 400 a month over the shorter period.
 

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Of the CTR's sold, how many where in the U.S. though? Those are worldwide numbers, right?

ITS has already sold far more than CTR in the states I think.
It is absolutely NA or US allocations. Edit: no source... just all the numbers quoted have to be, for all the manufacturers. It wouldn't be feasible for those to be worldwide.

We have also heard rumblings from the beginning to expect a 50/50 split in NA, and looking at those #s / month... that's what we have.
 

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ahh, ok. I thought the FL5 was slated for 500 unts in 2023 for NA. It seems like ITS' are flowing at a much higher rate, but maybe just because I'm on this forum and see much more chatter about cars showing up everywhere.
 

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idk or care how many R were sold or not sold...jmho...I'm interetsed in ITS#s
 
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ahh, ok. I thought the FL5 was slated for 500 unts in 2023 for NA. It seems like ITS' are flowing at a much higher rate, but maybe just because I'm on this forum and see much more chatter about cars showing up everywhere.
Your numbers are definitely way off. There are over 1800 Type R's on site/in transit right now:

https://www.motoringobsession.com/stock/civic-type-r

In comparison there are only around 300 Type S's on site/in transit currently.
 
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What I don't really get is that if people keep buying them, why not make more of them? Isn't that what good businesses do?

Why do they allow the dealers to pocket the pure profit, money-for-nothing "market value" and not just MAKE MORE CARS???

If it were me running the show I'd just charge more for them. If I were King Honda a CTR would cost $65k. Assholes want to pay that much, that's what it costs.
 

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Wow, really low numbers for the ITS! Out of the 100 onsite or in transit, most of them are spoken for I'm sure.
 

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How can Acura sell so many when you can get the same manual passenger seat mechanism on a $20k Civic? We may never know.
 

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I wish they'd number plated the ITS' so I could stop hearing global Type R owner #16k explain how rare and special their CTR is jk...maybe 😝
 
 


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