265/35/19 on stock wheels?

[UWU-mancer]

Any issues running that size on the stock wheels? I wanna use my stock wheels for fall and winter but don’t want dws06’s+ tires. If I bump up the sidewall from a 30 to a 35 I can get Michelin all season 4 tires.

Will there be any issues with rubbing? Any issues with stressing the hubs? Will it mess with the scrub radius and hurt the suspensions performance any?

no offense to the guys who really like the dws06’s. I just want a slightly stiffer side wall

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[optronix]

None of this makes sense. "Stiffer side wall"? The difference of DWS06+ vs A/S4 is not that extreme to justify deviating from the OEM sizes. I've had both on several cars and couldn't tell the difference one way or the other. They're still all-seasons. You're not setting any lap records regardless. They both suck compared to summer tires in general but won't be frozen and ruined if you drive them below 45 degrees. That is the extent of their value on this platform. "Performance" and "all-seasons" are mutually exclusive as far as I'm concerned.

All that said they probably won't rub, lots of room in these wheel wells. Your odometer will probably be off and yes this platform is sensitive to screwing with the OEM geometry.

 

[UWU-mancer]

and yes this platform is sensitive to screwing with the OEM geometry.

and that’s enough for me. Looks like I’m going with the continentals

in a 235/40/18 I could absolutely feel the steering difference between both tires. I’m not a pro driver. In fact I haven’t tracked in years due to legs and back issues keeping me from enjoying more than 20-30 minutes of driving at a time. Let alone pushing aggressively

the dws06’s steering is trash. But with the newer dws06+ it improved a ton! While the as4’s honestly feeling a bit better but also gives up less sooner too

 

[UWU-mancer]

None of this makes sense. "Stiffer side wall"? The difference of DWS06+ vs A/S4 is not that extreme to justify deviating from the OEM sizes. I've had both on several cars and couldn't tell the difference one way or the other. They're still all-seasons. You're not setting any lap records regardless. They both suck compared to summer tires in general but won't be frozen and ruined if you drive them below 45 degrees. That is the extent of their value on this platform. "Performance" and "all-seasons" are mutually exclusive as far as I'm concerned.

All that said they probably won't rub, lots of room in these wheel wells. Your odometer will probably be off and yes this platform is sensitive to screwing with the OEM geometry.

Oh didn’t meant to be rude. Forgot to thank you

sorry about that. And thanks for your input. I appreciate U.

 

[optronix]

Oh didn’t meant to be rude. Forgot to thank you

sorry about that. And thanks for your input. I appreciate U.

 

[bisquick]

You can run 265/35/19 with no issues at all; even if you opt to lower the car.

 

[Spart]

Any issues running that size on the stock wheels? I wanna use my stock wheels for fall and winter but don’t want dws06’s+ tires. If I bump up the sidewall from a 30 to a 35 I can get Michelin all season 4 tires.

Will there be any issues with rubbing? Any issues with stressing the hubs? Will it mess with the scrub radius and hurt the suspensions performance any?

no offense to the guys who really like the dws06’s. I just want a slightly stiffer side wall

Changing to a slightly taller tire size isn't going to stress the hub or alter the scrub radius (much) on these cars because the suspension design is quite different from a standard McPherson strut.

If you're worried about geometry, you are WAY more likely to mess all of that up by going with a +30-40mm offset on whatever summer wheels you have your eyes on. Those are going to counteract all the hard work Honda put into making this car have zero torque steer, which only really works when running wheels close to the OEM +60 offset. I think Apex is one of the only manufacturers that gets close with their +58mm spec. Most options for the CTR/ITS out there are +45 or less. It's actually quite annoying.

All that said with where you live and the fact that you're going to be changing tires/wheels twice a year, having a summer set and a three-season set may not make the most sense unless you have another winter vehicle. I would be looking at winter specific tires were I you, instead of "all" seasons. Winter tires are MUCH more capable on snow and ice than all-seasons.

I am going the opposite route with my wheels as you are, keeping the OEM wheels for summer (for now) and running a narrower 18x8 wheel with 225/40R18 winter tires. Narrower is generally a bit better in the snow and slush because you don't want to hydroplane on slush or float on top of the snow.

 

[UWU-mancer]

Changing to a slightly taller tire size isn't going to stress the hub or alter the scrub radius (much) on these cars because the suspension design is quite different from a standard McPherson strut.

If you're worried about geometry, you are WAY more likely to mess all of that up by going with a +30-40mm offset on whatever summer wheels you have your eyes on. Those are going to counteract all the hard work Honda put into making this car have zero torque steer, which only really works when running wheels close to the OEM +60 offset. I think Apex is one of the only manufacturers that gets close with their +58mm spec. Most options for the CTR/ITS out there are +45 or less. It's actually quite annoying.

All that said with where you live and the fact that you're going to be changing tires/wheels twice a year, having a summer set and a three-season set may not make the most sense unless you have another winter vehicle. I would be looking at winter specific tires were I you, instead of "all" seasons. Winter tires are MUCH more capable on snow and ice than all-seasons.

I am going the opposite route with my wheels as you are, keeping the OEM wheels for summer (for now) and running a narrower 18x8 wheel with 225/40R18 winter tires. Narrower is generally a bit better in the snow and slush because you don't want to hydroplane on slush or float on top of the snow.

From experience. Narrower wheels is the play bro. Harder to lose grip

I bought the stock wheels in bronze. It’ll be delivered whenever they get delivered

gonna slap my summers on the bronze wheels and toss the dws06’s on the stock grey wheels

I do really like the stock wheels design. I know they aren’t forged or flow formed but I can’t get over how good they look. Especially in bronze

 

[UWU-mancer]

Cut me a break plz. I’m old as fuck. First time on forums

my grandkid picked my user name. And I’ve no idea what it means ?

I thanked you because you can’t pay attention to my tone or body language. Since the whole back and forth communication can only be read and I felt like not thanking you was rude. After my time in the army I was left with ptsd with psychotic features. I’ve worked with psychologists over the years and have learned kindness goes a long way towards me not being an aggressive scary asshole.

 

[Spart]

I do really like the stock wheels design. I know they aren’t forged or flow formed but I can’t get over how good they look. Especially in bronze

I wish my white ITS was spec'd with the bronze! It does look great on these cars.

 

[UWU-mancer]

I wish my white ITS was spec'd with the bronze! It does look great on these cars.

I’ve seen the white with bronze wheels in pics online. Such a nice looking combo!

 

[Spart]

I’ve seen the white with bronze wheels in pics online. Such a nice looking combo!

If I upgrade my summer set at all, it will be to bronze but I want to go with Apex's 18x9.5 ET58 spec, which they currently do not offer in bronze. That will net a bit more sidewall for better rim protection and ride quality, and more tire options to boot, all while keeping the speedo accurate. I have reached out to Apex about adding that as an option, which they stated they may do next year.

If that interests anyone else, please reach out to Apex. They don't know we're out here until they KNOW we're out here.

 

[Frenzal]

I am going the opposite route with my wheels as you are, keeping the OEM wheels for summer (for now) and running a narrower 18x8 wheel with 225/40R18 winter tires. Narrower is generally a bit better in the snow and slush because you don't want to hydroplane on slush or float on top of the snow.

I was thinking of going that route with winter tires (225), but finally went with 235.

Would strongly suggest 235 vs 225 as even with 235, the handling is way worst than with the 265 summer tires. Unless you really have to deal with tons of snow, go 235.

I live near Montreal, Canada, and we get lot of snow and I've been fine with 235 tires.

 

[UWU-mancer]

If I upgrade my summer set at all, it will be to bronze but I want to go with Apex's 18x9.5 ET58 spec, which they currently do not offer in bronze. That will net a bit more sidewall for better rim protection and ride quality, and more tire options to boot, all while keeping the speedo accurate. I have reached out to Apex about adding that as an option, which they stated they may do next year.

If that interests anyone else, please reach out to Apex. They don't know we're out here until they KNOW we're out here.

I didn’t know that option existed. Wow!

 

[Spart]

I was thinking of going that route with winter tires (225), but finally went with 235.

Would strongly suggest 235 vs 225 as even with 235, the handling is way worst than with the 265 summer tires. Unless you really have to deal with tons of snow, go 235.

I live near Montreal, Canada, and we get lot of snow and I've been fine with 235 tires.

We're fretting over 10mm of width here. All good winter tires will have mediocre to bad dry handling characteristics. I don't drive my cars hard when they have winter tires on. I look at it like this: what width of tire would I run in the snow on a FWD economy car weighing 3200 pounds? 205-225. About the same as what comes on a base Nissan Altima (215). Forget the power and dry handling, I want the best safety characteristics for snow.

225/40R18 had several advantages for me: better fit on an 8" wide wheel than 235, price, selection, and being reasonably identical to the OEM tire's revolutions per mile spec. OEM PS4S revs per mile is 822, the brand of tires I chose in 225/40R18 are 826 revs/mile. 235/40R18 would have been 820 revs/mile which is even closer, but you're splitting hairs.

I went with Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 this time around. I have in the recent past used almost exclusively Bridgestone Blizzaks and found them to be better than others I've tried (General Altimax Arctic, Firestone Winterforce, and Michelin something-or-other) but the Nokians seem so well regarded that I decided to try them out. They are about $50 per tire more expensive than the Blizzaks, we'll see if they provide that value or not.

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