2024 cayman GTS 4.0

[koatic]

Wow,, 7800 redline @ 80 MPH in 2nd gear!!
Posting in off topic obviously but DAMN this would be fun on the twisties never leaving 2nd

 

[crepr12]

Yeah...I think any Porsche would be fun in the twisties but I get your point also

 

[bpebler]

What's the price tag for future endeavors?

 

[Integra23]

This is what I don't care for on our transmission. 1st and 2nd are really short and if we could get a true overdrive 6th gear.
Porsche

 

[QUIKAG]

80mph in second gear on the Cayman kind of sucks. I had a 981 GT4 and it took forever (relatively speaking) to get through 1st and 2nd gear. I like tighter ratios so you have to shift more. Overall, I like the gear spacing in the ITS.

 

[koatic]

Yeah, that’s why I only drive manuals because I love the engagement and driving experience rowing through the gears. Guess you need the taller gears for the max top speed with only 6 to work from. I just thought 80 in second is insane.

 

[optronix]

80mph in second gear on the Cayman kind of sucks. I had a 981 GT4 and it took forever (relatively speaking) to get through 1st and 2nd gear. I like tighter ratios so you have to shift more. Overall, I like the gear spacing in the ITS.

This ^. It's slightly better with the PDK but the gearing is still too tall, especially for a car that rewards you for running up through the entire rev range. You can't really do that on the street (well, unless you're an asshole and I know they live on these forums). And the only way to fix it is ~$10k or so (can't recall if that includes install, which would obviously add a LOT more) via DeMan Motorsport: https://demanmotorsport.com/gearing/

Matt Farah's 718 Spyder has the full DeMan configuration, including the gearing and 4.5L stroker kit. If you can look past the strawberry shortcake colorway, his car is absolutely amazing:

The ITS is infinitely better in this one key area than the 981/718 cars. The shifter input is the best in the business, and you have to do it more often, which shouldn't be a bad thing (unless you're worried about gas mileage then yeah it's not that great.

The 911s are better because they have a 7th gear... BUT, the shifter isn't as good. It is way better in the 991.2, the 991.1 is not what you'd expect from a Porsche. I'll concede I haven't driven a manual 992 but based on reviews it's a big upgrade over the 992 FWIW.

Also Porsche clutch engagement is not as good as the ITS for daily driving. But this is picking nits; it's still pretty good. I'd just far rather be stuck in traffic in my ITS than any of my past Porsches.

 

[bvanlieu]

ITS is more fun on the street in terms of not being illegal as much.

As for shifters...well, the 981 doesn't need a SSK (was an option on 9x6/9x7 cars) and the position of the shifter with the CGT design language is better then the ITS. Its about perfect, to move from steering wheel simply to the side and back. I agree in terms of transmissions the 6sp in the 9x1 line is better then the 7sp WRT feels. 7th is a great GT gear for the HW if you want that.

Shift engagement to me is a tossup, ITS tad shorter, but 981 gate feel is good. 981 clutch is much heavier which I prefer myself (I get traffic is more work, google route me around it !). Honda clutches are light, can be a tad vague at times (which was fine when the cars had no torque).

ITS will never compete to the 981 sports exhaust unfortunately but I appreciate Honda's effort

 

[dockleryxk]

Come to the dragon, our second gear is good for most of it on a hot pass

 

[VarmintCong]

This is what I don't care for on our transmission. 1st and 2nd are really short and if we could get a true overdrive 6th gear.
Porsche

Everyone hates the GTS and Cayman R's gearing, it's so tall you can't rev the car out easily. Honda did it right.

 

[Integra23]

Everyone hates the GTS and Cayman R's gearing, it's so tall you can't rev the car out easily. Honda did it right.

The 2nd gear fear of grinding....