DSC Sport Suspension Module for our cars!

[UWU-mancer]

I've made some tweaks since my last revision. Changes are highlighted below; I believe this will be the final revision as I'm content with the performance.

For anyone interested, you can find my revised file here: Comfort Baseline v1.1

My Setup
Springs: Eibach Sportline
Sway Bar: RV6 (middle settings)
Wheels & Tires: Stock wheels, Continental DWS 06+ (265/35/r19)

Tune Modifications:
Values in yellow were revised from v1.0. Values highlighted in red were revised from the base value.

GForce Tab

Default Value	1.0
Offset	30.0
Sensitivity	30
G Rate Max	30.0

Velocity Tab

	Cmp-High	Cmp-Med	Cmp-Low	0	Reb-Low	Reb-Med	Reb-High
LF	-20.0	-12.0	-8.0	0.0	14.0	12.5	15.0
RF	-20.0	-12.0	-8.0	0.0	14.0	12.5	15.0
LR	-11.1	-6.6	-4.4	0.0	15.0	10.0	15.0
RR	-11.1	-6.6	-4.4	0.0	15.0	10.0	15.0

Shock Calibration Tab
Reverted back to base values.

Very dope of U to share. I don’t have one. Just wanted to say that.

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[Winpildeu]

I've made some tweaks since my last revision. Changes are highlighted below; I believe this will be the final revision as I'm content with the performance.

For anyone interested, you can find my revised file here: Comfort Baseline v1.1

My Setup
Springs: Eibach Sportline
Sway Bar: RV6 (middle settings)
Wheels & Tires: Stock wheels, Continental DWS 06+ (265/35/r19)

Tune Modifications:
Values in yellow were revised from v1.0. Values highlighted in red were revised from the base value.

GForce Tab

Default Value	1.0
Offset	30.0
Sensitivity	30
G Rate Max	30.0

Velocity Tab

	Cmp-High	Cmp-Med	Cmp-Low	0	Reb-Low	Reb-Med	Reb-High
LF	-20.0	-12.0	-8.0	0.0	14.0	12.5	15.0
RF	-20.0	-12.0	-8.0	0.0	14.0	12.5	15.0
LR	-11.1	-6.6	-4.4	0.0	15.0	10.0	15.0
RR	-11.1	-6.6	-4.4	0.0	15.0	10.0	15.0

Shock Calibration Tab
Reverted back to base values.

Thanks for sharing! I was going to try your v1, but I'll try this v1.1 and give you my feedback. I'm totally new to messing with DSC tuner, even though I had one for my 718 Boxster..

 

[bisquick]

Very dope of U to share. I don’t have one. Just wanted to say that.

This has been an inviting community since day one. Gatekeeping doesn’t lead to progress so this is my tiny contribution.

This is one of the modifications I would put high on the list if you intend to use your car for more than just commuting.

Thanks for sharing! I was going to try your v1, but I'll try this v1.1 and give you my feedback. I'm totally new to messing with DSC tuner, even though I had one for my 718 Boxster..

Looking forward to your feedback! Changing revisions is easy enough, I would be keen to know if you identify differences between the revisions.

 

[UWU-mancer]

This has been an inviting community since day one. Gatekeeping doesn’t lead to progress so this is my tiny contribution.

This is one of the modifications I would put high on the list if you intend to use your car for more than just commuting.



Looking forward to your feedback! Changing revisions is easy enough, I would be keen to know if you identify differences between the revisions.

No hell no. I’m too old for that . Wouldn’t mind a +r feeling sport plus tho. Maybe one day?

 

[Winpildeu]

I've made some tweaks since my last revision. Changes are highlighted below; I believe this will be the final revision as I'm content with the performance.

For anyone interested, you can find my revised file here: Comfort Baseline v1.1

My Setup
Springs: Eibach Sportline
Sway Bar: RV6 (middle settings)
Wheels & Tires: Stock wheels, Continental DWS 06+ (265/35/r19)

Tune Modifications:
Values in yellow were revised from v1.0. Values highlighted in red were revised from the base value.

GForce Tab

Default Value	1.0
Offset	30.0
Sensitivity	30
G Rate Max	30.0

Velocity Tab

	Cmp-High	Cmp-Med	Cmp-Low	0	Reb-Low	Reb-Med	Reb-High
LF	-20.0	-12.0	-8.0	0.0	14.0	12.5	15.0
RF	-20.0	-12.0	-8.0	0.0	14.0	12.5	15.0
LR	-11.1	-6.6	-4.4	0.0	15.0	10.0	15.0
RR	-11.1	-6.6	-4.4	0.0	15.0	10.0	15.0

Shock Calibration Tab
Reverted back to base values.

So I've had some time to drive around w/ the base map, v1, and v1.1 of your comfort map.

I have a similar setup to yours with:

Spoon lowering springs
RV6 rear sway bar (middle setting)
Advan TC-4 w/ Continental Extreme Contact Sport 02 tires (265/35/18)


So the base map for me was an improvement overall from the OEM module. My 2 gripes w/ the comfort map are:

1. I felt there was not enough low-speed dampening happening in places where there's a dip in the road or speed humps. While it is definitely compliant, it felt bouncy. The issue was much less present in highway conditions, though.

2. There was a noticeable loss of feedback in the steering as a result of the suspension being more compliant (I think). I'm guessing this comes w/ the territory and not much can be done about that.

I switched to v1 of the comfort baseline and thought it was a further improvement from the DSC comfort settings, except it introduced some harshness when going over harsh roads or the car goes over a sudden small bump in the road. The suspension seemed to tighten up a bit, though.

v1.1 is a good spot for me where it's kinda between the DSC comfort map and v1. The suspension responds quicker while not being as harsh as v1. I also think some of the steering feedback returned? Maybe that's just me.

@bisquick thanks for sharing your work so far and look forward to seeing any further updates!

@Maya@DSC, hopefully this feedback will help w/ a further development on the maps.

 

[bisquick]

So I've had some time to drive around w/ the base map, v1, and v1.1 of your comfort map.

I have a similar setup to yours with:

Spoon lowering springs
RV6 rear sway bar (middle setting)
Advan TC-4 w/ Continental Extreme Contact Sport 02 tires (265/35/18)


So the base map for me was an improvement overall from the OEM module. My 2 gripes w/ the comfort map are:

1. I felt there was not enough low-speed dampening happening in places where there's a dip in the road or speed humps. While it is definitely compliant, it felt bouncy. The issue was much less present in highway conditions, though.

2. There was a noticeable loss of feedback in the steering as a result of the suspension being more compliant (I think). I'm guessing this comes w/ the territory and not much can be done about that.

I switched to v1 of the comfort baseline and thought it was a further improvement from the DSC comfort settings, except it introduced some harshness when going over harsh roads or the car goes over a sudden small bump in the road. The suspension seemed to tighten up a bit, though.

v1.1 is a good spot for me where it's kinda between the DSC comfort map and v1. The suspension responds quicker while not being as harsh as v1. I also think some of the steering feedback returned? Maybe that's just me.

@bisquick thanks for sharing your work so far and look forward to seeing any further updates!

@Maya@DSC, hopefully this feedback will help w/ a further development on the maps.

I'm glad to hear that the improvements were noticeable and appreciate the additional feedback!

I highly recommend zeroing your ride height in the application before applying the revisions as this impacts the overall performance.

There is a quick video from DSC explaining how to do so:

I have not fiddled with the Steering tab in the program although the steering feedback was likely introduced due to resetting the Shock Calibration in v1.1; I too felt that the car was "floaty" in v1.0.

The current challenges I'm facing are what I believe to be limitations in addressing low-speed compression and rebound. The software allows you to tweak both based on suspension travel, but it does not take into account vehicle speed until 60mph. The car soaks up bumps at speeds above 60mph well, but I still find myself scratching my head on some low speed dips.

I should connect with someone at DSC to see if there is a better approach to managing this without adjusting overall G Force table and Sensitivity. @Maya@DSC any recommendations are appreciated.

 

[coxxoc]

It is good to see several of us messing with the calibration. The out of the box calibration was good on my old 981, but the Integra version needs some tweaks. The lowering springs file out of the gate did need some tweaking. It felt like compression and especially rebound were too soft on 20-40 mile per hour roads with lots of bumps when traveling straight/no g's. Highway speeds felt better which can be explained by looking at the Speed tab settings. The controller increase the rate at 60-150 mph in 10mph increments. Cornering feels just fine. Braking is just fine. The best improvement I've found so far was to keep it simple and adjust the comfort map G Comfort Parameter default rate from 1 to 5. I've been driving on it this way for a week and feel it gives up minimal comfort while resolving the 2nd bounce to settle and uncontrolled side to side body motions that could occur with the default setting of 1.

I would recommend everyone watch the whole DSC Sport Tuner Software and Tuner Software Overview video linked below rather than only the ride height sensor part. They go over what the features do, basic setup and input validations, tuning strategy and suggested increments to try your changes. Before watching, I was originally messing with velocity values to adjust compression and rebound which was supposed to be for finer tuning. I may still go back and lower the G comfort default rate and increase velocity rebound settings if I tire of what it feels like now. I had also considered increasing the minimum mA value in comfort map shock calibration as another thing to try so that G Comfort Base Rate can never make the car uncontrolled.

 

[Maya@DSC]

I highly recommend zeroing your ride height in the application before applying the revisions as this impacts the overall performance.

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[Maya@DSC]

I'm glad to hear that the improvements were noticeable and appreciate the additional feedback!

I highly recommend zeroing your ride height in the application before applying the revisions as this impacts the overall performance.

There is a quick video from DSC explaining how to do so:

I have not fiddled with the Steering tab in the program although the steering feedback was likely introduced due to resetting the Shock Calibration in v1.1; I too felt that the car was "floaty" in v1.0.

The current challenges I'm facing are what I believe to be limitations in addressing low-speed compression and rebound. The software allows you to tweak both based on suspension travel, but it does not take into account vehicle speed until 60mph. The car soaks up bumps at speeds above 60mph well, but I still find myself scratching my head on some low speed dips.

I should connect with someone at DSC to see if there is a better approach to managing this without adjusting overall G Force table and Sensitivity. @Maya@DSC any recommendations are appreciated.

Apologies for the delay, I was out of office last week. Let me talk to our development/tuning team and see if they have an answer for you re: adjusting each table.

 

[Maya@DSC]

So I've had some time to drive around w/ the base map, v1, and v1.1 of your comfort map.

I have a similar setup to yours with:

Spoon lowering springs
RV6 rear sway bar (middle setting)
Advan TC-4 w/ Continental Extreme Contact Sport 02 tires (265/35/18)


So the base map for me was an improvement overall from the OEM module. My 2 gripes w/ the comfort map are:

1. I felt there was not enough low-speed dampening happening in places where there's a dip in the road or speed humps. While it is definitely compliant, it felt bouncy. The issue was much less present in highway conditions, though.

2. There was a noticeable loss of feedback in the steering as a result of the suspension being more compliant (I think). I'm guessing this comes w/ the territory and not much can be done about that.

I switched to v1 of the comfort baseline and thought it was a further improvement from the DSC comfort settings, except it introduced some harshness when going over harsh roads or the car goes over a sudden small bump in the road. The suspension seemed to tighten up a bit, though.

v1.1 is a good spot for me where it's kinda between the DSC comfort map and v1. The suspension responds quicker while not being as harsh as v1. I also think some of the steering feedback returned? Maybe that's just me.

@bisquick thanks for sharing your work so far and look forward to seeing any further updates!

@Maya@DSC, hopefully this feedback will help w/ a further development on the maps.

I'll be sharing this with the team! I am thrilled to see everyone working on a community version and sharing feedback.

 

[bisquick]

Back at it again.

I was still a bit disappointed in Comfort Baseline v1.1; I was looking for more overall refinement rather than just low speed comfort. After messing around with Offset, Sensitivity, G Rate Max, and the Velocity tab, I feel this revision is more linear and predictable.

Keep me honest and give it a try: Comfort Baseline v2.0

My Setup
Springs: Eibach Sportline
Sway Bar: RV6 (middle settings)
Wheels & Tires: Stock wheels, Continental DWS 06+ (265/35/r19)

Tune Modifications:
Values in green were revised from v1.0 & v1.1.

GForce Tab

Default Value	1.0
Offset	50.0
Sensitivity	40
G Rate Max	35.0

Velocity Tab

	Cmp-High	Cmp-Med	Cmp-Low	0	Reb-Low	Reb-Med	Reb-High
LF	-34.0	-42.0	-48.0	0.0	32.0	28.0	22.0
RF	-34.0	-42.0	-48.0	0.0	32.0	28.0	22.0
LR	-37.0	-46.0	-53.0	0.0	40.0	36.0	30.0
RR	-37.0	-46.0	-53.0	0.0	40.0	36.0	30.0

 

[Kendal0]

Finally got around to installing the unit today. Install tip, no need to remove the module mounting plate since we need to reus it anyway, just leave it there and remove the four screws. Plenty of room to makes it an easy process. Removing the rear seat is a pain in the butt. I didn’t put the screw back yet. While I have it out, I ordered knockoff dynamat to put under there so I never have to pull it again.

Snow and 15 degrees out so no good opinion yet. But on Conti DSWs on the highway, it’s noticeable smoother at 75 mph. Sport mode at that speed felt just a bit firmer than the OEM comfort. Will get a better chance to compare next week on my 25 mile country road/interstate route to work.

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