Disappointed with Acura Overall

[WLTRWYT]

I agree on the PPF.. if i could do it over again I would probably skip it. It doesn't seem worth the hassle and expense with my experience. I had a supposed top tier shop do my PPF and I felt like it had lots of blemishes and they had to redo a few sections and I'm still not super happy with it. Just repaint the car down the road at that point.. lol No garage queen here we've had our fun dirt road excursions already hence the paint chip.

I wouldn’t skip it. My 2024 got pummeled with stone chips before I even hit 10k. I had a 2006 TSX that took less of a beating over 10 years. Same drive, different car. I think you probably had a poor install. I just wrapped my roof with self healing black PPF and the install is trash, it looks like they cut it with scissors trying to match the roof line.

Numbers don’t lie. Resale is garbage and it costs a fortune to keep them running. If you’re pockets are deep then waste away but id buy a Caddy before dumping money like that in German cars. Love their styling but I’ll enjoy them like I enjoy fake women. From afar.

Depends on the car, highly sought after German cars will hold value, and many do because of regular dealer maintenance. German build and finish is much stronger, albeit parts and labour may be a bit more, but the longevity is there. I’d consider the ITS as sought-after among Acura/Honda. The audio system “ELS” in the ITS is garbage compared to some of the base systems in non-sought-after German vehicles.

I don't normally join discussions like this one but I have to admit I am a little disappointed with the interior of my Intergra. It is SO loud. My RDX was not that way. And the Genesis G70 I had before that was definitely not that way. That was one of the best cars I have ever owned. My Integra is a fun car to drive. I have taken it up the mountains once already and it is an absolute blast to drive up there. The interior fit and finish just sort of lets it down. I would have gladly paid a little more for the car if they had just put more into sound deadening and interior build quality.

I know what you mean. I bought this car to drive occasionally in the summer and store through winter because I want to own it for a very long time, so I’m a bit indifferent to the road noise / rattles. The paint defects really bother me however.

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[UWU-mancer]

Numbers don’t lie. Resale is garbage and it costs a fortune to keep them running. If you’re pockets are deep then waste away but id buy a Caddy before dumping money like that in German cars. Love their styling but I’ll enjoy them like I enjoy fake women. From afar.

Like. Imaginary women? Or women with plastic surgery? It matters. Plz explain

 

[UWU-mancer]

I wouldn’t skip it. My 2024 got pummeled with stone chips before I even hit 10k. I had a 2006 TSX that took less of a beating over 10 years. Same drive, different car. I think you probably had a poor install. I just wrapped my roof with self healing black PPF and the install is trash, it looks like they cut it with scissors trying to match the roof line.




Depends on the car, highly sought after German cars will hold value, and many do because of regular dealer maintenance. German build and finish is much stronger, albeit parts and labour may be a bit more, but the longevity is there. I’d consider the ITS as sought-after among Acura/Honda. The audio system “ELS” in the ITS is garbage compared to some of the base systems in non-sought-after German vehicles.




I know what you mean. I bought this car to drive occasionally in the summer and store through winter because I want to own it for a very long time, so I’m a bit indifferent to the road noise / rattles. The paint defects really bother me however.

Man the s5’s audio is sublime. The head rests have a small left and right speaker U can’t even see. As a result U have no idea where the audio is coming from when U crank the volume about 15%-20%

 

[optronix]

PPF is a curse.

I've lost so much money on PPF it's legit embarrassing. But here I am getting a quote for my MX-5 for full-car Xpel Stealth...

I decided not to do it this time though. End of the day, I don't actually give a shit about a few paint chips. I'm not a cars and coffee guy; I don't hard park my car and expect others to look at it. I look at it myself, as I'm walking to or away from it. I may frown while I'm washing the car but ultimately, the quality of my life is not materially changed because of a few paint blemishes. Unless the paint chips are abysmal, generally a solid polish and coating will make it look amazing from 5 feet or more away anyway. And if it's that bad, a resprayed bumper and hood will likely cost less than the PPF.

An absolute curse.

My DE5 has PPF on the hood and fenders; I had a trip I planned to take right after I bought the car and I spooked myself into getting the PPF done. I don't regret it, but I wouldn't do it again.

Also the stereo is like the blue dress/gold dress. Some people swear it's great. Some people swear it's trash. I've never seen a more divisive assessment. Personally, I was expecting more but it's ok.

 

[CANDE5]

Like. Imaginary women? Or women with plastic surgery? It matters. Plz explain

Good point . BBL’s with Fake everything. They’re high maintenance are don’t live up to the price tag.

 

[UWU-mancer]

PPF is a curse.

I've lost so much money on PPF it's legit embarrassing. But here I am getting a quote for my MX-5 for full-car Xpel Stealth...

I decided not to do it this time though. End of the day, I don't actually give a shit about a few paint chips. I'm not a cars and coffee guy; I don't hard park my car and expect others to look at it. I look at it myself, as I'm walking to or away from it. I may frown while I'm washing the car but ultimately, the quality of my life is not materially changed because of a few paint blemishes. Unless the paint chips are abysmal, generally a solid polish and coating will make it look amazing from 5 feet or more away anyway. And if it's that bad, a resprayed bumper and hood will likely cost less than the PPF.

An absolute curse.

My DE5 has PPF on the hood and fenders; I had a trip I planned to take right after I bought the car and I spooked myself into getting the PPF done. I don't regret it, but I wouldn't do it again.

Also the stereo is like the blue dress/gold dress. Some people swear it's great. Some people swear it's trash. I've never seen a more divisive assessment. Personally, I was expecting more but it's ok.

No bro I’m with U on this. I won’t even clear bra. Fuck all that. If the ceramic coating won’t save it (99% chance it won’t) then I’ll chase it with touch up.

 

[Victorofhavoc]

No bro I’m with U on this. I won’t even clear bra. Fuck all that. If the ceramic coating won’t save it (99% chance it won’t) then I’ll chase it with touch up.

Two track events with ppf left mine a dimpled mess. It looked worse than having stone chips. Sure you can peel it off and replace it, but you can also sand and respray.

 

[UWU-mancer]

Two track events with ppf left mine a dimpled mess. It looked worse than having stone chips. Sure you can peel it off and replace it, but you can also sand and respray.

You know. Not for nothing but in your case I feel like you can make a case for full ppf and a coating. Post track day wash up would be a breeze

 

[Victorofhavoc]

You know. Not for nothing but in your case I feel like you can make a case for full ppf and a coating. Post track day wash up would be a breeze

I got high end ppf with ceramic built in and still did ceramic on top. After two events the ppf became "sticky" and took tremendous claybarring to get it even semi smooth again. The golfball effect was bad on it, and I would not recommend ppf for track use as a result. It actually made washing a lot harder than just a coated car. The black lower sections got so ugly I considered doing the carbon overlays, but with how cheap new black pieces are I'd rather just deal with replacing those than have stick on carbon.

For general abuse on track, I don't think I've seen anything better than basic ceramic coating with optimum on top and occasional washes and clay bar. Maybe the saran wrap method the corvette and Ferrari guys seem to always do would work too, but I haven't tried it because of how ugly it is . Rock chips be damned. It's not a fancy 1 of 250 collectible that's a garage queen... It's a beater.

 

[UWU-mancer]

I got high end ppf with ceramic built in and still did ceramic on top. After two events the ppf became "sticky" and took tremendous claybarring to get it even semi smooth again. The golfball effect was bad on it, and I would not recommend ppf for track use as a result. It actually made washing a lot harder than just a coated car. The black lower sections got so ugly I considered doing the carbon overlays, but with how cheap new black pieces are I'd rather just deal with replacing those than have stick on carbon.

For general abuse on track, I don't think I've seen anything better than basic ceramic coating with optimum on top and occasional washes and clay bar. Maybe the saran wrap method the corvette and Ferrari guys seem to always do would work too, but I haven't tried it because of how ugly it is . Rock chips be damned. It's not a fancy 1 of 250 collectible that's a garage queen... It's a beater.

Damn. I would’ve expected the ppf to do better

 

[optronix]

I got high end ppf with ceramic built in and still did ceramic on top. After two events the ppf became "sticky" and took tremendous claybarring to get it even semi smooth again. The golfball effect was bad on it, and I would not recommend ppf for track use as a result. It actually made washing a lot harder than just a coated car. The black lower sections got so ugly I considered doing the carbon overlays, but with how cheap new black pieces are I'd rather just deal with replacing those than have stick on carbon.

For general abuse on track, I don't think I've seen anything better than basic ceramic coating with optimum on top and occasional washes and clay bar. Maybe the saran wrap method the corvette and Ferrari guys seem to always do would work too, but I haven't tried it because of how ugly it is . Rock chips be damned. It's not a fancy 1 of 250 collectible that's a garage queen... It's a beater.

I think your track is cursed lol.

I recall you mentioning something about your windshield being ruined after one track day too... it might just be your track surface.

I can't really comment a whole lot because I just have one track day in this car, but my windshield and PPF are no worse for wear. The worst abuse I've given it was letting the ceramic coating I used cure too long and it gave it pretty nasty haze, which is almost gone now almost a year later without any extra intervention. Ceramic still holding strong with shine and water beading though (AmmoNYC Reflex Pro II for anyone wondering).

I'm just done with PPF because of the expense. And I will NEVER get it on a white (or any light-colored...) car, ever again.

 

[Victorofhavoc]

I think your track is cursed lol.

I recall you mentioning something about your windshield being ruined after one track day too... it might just be your track surface.

I can't really comment a whole lot because I just have one track day in this car, but my windshield and PPF are no worse for wear. The worst abuse I've given it was letting the ceramic coating I used cure too long and it gave it pretty nasty haze, which is almost gone now almost a year later without any extra intervention. Ceramic still holding strong with shine and water beading though (AmmoNYC Reflex Pro II for anyone wondering).

I'm just done with PPF because of the expense. And I will NEVER get it on a white (or any light-colored...) car, ever again.

Yeah this local track is fairly dirty. Little rocks everywhere. I won't argue that. Yes the windshield took a peppering, but that's also normal after a few years of track use.

My issue is really the resultant golf ball effect. I personally think it looked much uglier than just having some rock chips you fill (properly staged, cleared, and polished) for a few years before doing a full respray. Bumper, fenders, and hood is about 2500$ to properly respray and blend. If you do it twice in ten years, that's about the same as paying for the ppf.

I've seen similar complaints from other track drivers. A lot of folks just go vinyl and replace it every couple years now.

 

[nttran98]

Ngl, I was able to find a type S and type R new at rougly the same amount of money. part of the reason i chose type R was because the fact it was made in Japan.

 

[Victorofhavoc]

Ngl, I was able to find a type S and type R new at rougly the same amount of money. part of the reason i chose type R was because the fact it was made in Japan.

Have you seen Japan recently? I'm not sure this is a great argument considering your engine is still made in Ohio. There's also the recent thread where the Japanese made transmission grenaded itself and was clearly a quality control build time issue 🫠.

Having been in and driven several type r now, I don't believe their build quality to be any better. They're virtually identical and most of the parts are still manufactured in the same global supply chain sources.

 

[UWU-mancer]

Have you seen Japan recently? I'm not sure this is a great argument considering your engine is still made in Ohio. There's also the recent thread where the Japanese made transmission grenaded itself and was clearly a quality control build time issue 🫠.

Having been in and driven several type r now, I don't believe their build quality to be any better. They're virtually identical and most of the parts are still manufactured in the same global supply chain sources.

I’ve been in enough fl5’s to know those mf’s rattle like crazy on the inside too

being made in Japan isn’t a flex. Especially not if it’s modern Honda.

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