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PRL is our best seller for the FL5 and ITS. Solid system and great bang for buck.

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PRL is our best seller for the FL5 and ITS. Solid system and great bang for buck.

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Thank you for the input, this thread has convinced me to go with PRL lol. Order is in for the IC and piping!
 

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I too appreciate the recommendation...I agree prl makes great stuff!
 

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I had the PRL intercooler on my car for about 6 months and just had it swapped out for the PWR. To be honest I never really wanted to get the PRL intercooler but everyone kept talking it up and telling me to get it. It was confusing to try to discern information about the other options. One of the things that bothered me about the PRL was the weight of it. It's about 26 lbs hanging off the nose of our FWD cars. Conceptually that bugged me, especially when I spent a bunch of money on an 8lb battery. I also actually placed and then quickly cancelled an order for the MDR intercooler. I realized that it is heavy and large volume and seemed like overkill for my application.

Another thing that I began to notice after getting the PRL intercooler was that I was having a very slight throttle lag, especially in Sport+ mode. It was a slight hesitation after initial throttle application. This is apparent on our cars even in stock form but the intercooler seemed to exaggerate the issue.

I finally bit the bullet on PWR after digging into it a bit more and after talking to some more experienced people who explained the benefits of PWR. For starters, the PWR only weights 12 lbs, less than half of the PRL. According to some tests that I've seen, including those done by WOT, it cools air more efficiently and has better flow that should theoretically help throttle response.

I just had the PWR put on and only have limited driving time with it but my initial impression is that it has improved the throttle response and maybe even give me a little more low RPM torque. I'm not feeling that annoying slight throttle delay that I was getting with the PRL. It's a subtle difference but appreciated.

The PWR is significantly more expensive but I plan on keeping this car a long time, so like many things with modding cars, I have justified it to myself. I'll try to come back and update this thread more after I get more driving time on the back roads with the PWR.
 

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Quick question-

Why?

More specifically, what specific benefit are you looking to gain by replacing the OEM intercooler?

So far I've seen something about throttle response... and weight, which the PRL is a net-negative... it could be viewed as a gate to "reliable" 500 horsepower... and maybe aesthetics, that the OEM intercooler might not have enough "presence". Am I missing anything?

Because of all the forum prowling I've been doing since I discovered this platform, I have yet to see any conclusive, data-backed evidence that it's worth considering doing anything at all to the OEM intercooler, and to the contrary the PRL intercooler in particular seems to be linked to at least a few actual overheating issues on track.

I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, I'm asking for evidence that goes into the willingness to modify this component for an expectation of potential gain. So far my hypothesis is that it's assumed to be necessary to get big power out of it and perhaps there's truth behind that... but for anyone not looking for a dyno queen they're pretty much pointless and could actually be detrimental.

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Quick question-

Why?

More specifically, what specific benefit are you looking to gain by replacing the OEM intercooler?

So far I've seen something about throttle response... and weight, which the PRL is a net-negative... it could be viewed as a gate to "reliable" 500 horsepower... and maybe aesthetics, that the OEM intercooler might not have enough "presence". Am I missing anything?

Because of all the forum prowling I've been doing since I discovered this platform, I have yet to see any conclusive, data-backed evidence that it's worth considering doing anything at all to the OEM intercooler, and to the contrary the PRL intercooler in particular seems to be linked to at least a few actual overheating issues on track.

I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, I'm asking for evidence that goes into the willingness to modify this component for an expectation of potential gain. So far my hypothesis is that it's assumed to be necessary to get big power out of it and perhaps there's truth behind that... but for anyone not looking for a dyno queen they're pretty much pointless and could actually be detrimental.

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For me, it partly because I want to push more power and the aesthetics is definitely a plus too. But my OEM intercooler is also so beat to shit that the straightener I used broke lol. And it has multiple big dents from rock chips. So if I’m gonna replace the intercooler I might as well replace it with a aftermarket one. At least those are my thoughts.
 

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For me, it partly because I want to push more power and the aesthetics is definitely a plus too. But my OEM intercooler is also so beat to shit that the straightener I used broke lol. And it has multiple big dents from rock chips. So if I’m gonna replace the intercooler I might as well replace it with a aftermarket one. At least those are my thoughts.
That is fair. "If it's broke, upgrade it" is a valid approach. I have some remnant questions on the events that led to your intercooler sustaining such irreversible damage but that's neither here nor there.

Still wondering why an intercooler is still top of the list of desired (or mandated) mods for most general "tuner kids" for this platform though...
 
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That is fair. "If it's broke, upgrade it" is a valid approach. I have some remnant questions on the events that led to your intercooler sustaining such irreversible damage but that's neither here nor there.

Still wondering why an intercooler is still top of the list of desired (or mandated) mods for most general "tuner kids" for this platform though...
The events that led that to the intercooler damage are prolly contributed to me driving it all year round and living in the Midwest with salt trucks are where most of my chip/dent damages come from. Also not a fan of slow drivers in the fast lane if you know what I mean lol. And I agree with you on IC being top of the list. I never planned on upgrading the IC until I was ready to do my fueling and turbo upgrades, it was essentially at the bottom of my list. But now it has been bumped up due to me visually looking at it on a daily basis and realizing how messed up my stock one is lol.
 

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The metal end tanks an piping are what my interest is
 

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The metal end tanks an piping are what my interest is
Are the OEM ones not metal ends? I never noticed it if they aren’t lol.
 

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Quick question-

Why?

More specifically, what specific benefit are you looking to gain by replacing the OEM intercooler?

So far I've seen something about throttle response... and weight, which the PRL is a net-negative... it could be viewed as a gate to "reliable" 500 horsepower... and maybe aesthetics, that the OEM intercooler might not have enough "presence". Am I missing anything?

Because of all the forum prowling I've been doing since I discovered this platform, I have yet to see any conclusive, data-backed evidence that it's worth considering doing anything at all to the OEM intercooler, and to the contrary the PRL intercooler in particular seems to be linked to at least a few actual overheating issues on track.

I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, I'm asking for evidence that goes into the willingness to modify this component for an expectation of potential gain. So far my hypothesis is that it's assumed to be necessary to get big power out of it and perhaps there's truth behind that... but for anyone not looking for a dyno queen they're pretty much pointless and could actually be detrimental.
These are legitimate questions that I asked myself before doing the intercooler. I had already upgrade the intake, inlet, and charge pipes, along with down pipe and front pipe and felt like I might as well just go ahead and do the last piece in that chain which was the intercooler. I started to regret this after I put in the PRL due to the downsides of weight, size, and throttle response issues. My remedy was to spend more money and put a more expensive intercooler that solved these issues. But if you are not feeling an urge to upgrade your intercooler and are content with the stock one, you're probably better off just sticking with stock.

OP, you could probably find a low mileage stock intercooler for sale from someone who is upgrading to aftermarket if you just want to replace your dinged up one. But I suspect their might be an anterior motive of wanting to simply upgrade your car, which is understandable with this platform.
 
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These are legitimate questions that I asked myself before doing the intercooler. I had already upgrade the intake, inlet, and charge pipes, along with down pipe and front pipe and felt like I might as well just go ahead and do the last piece in that chain which was the intercooler. I started to regret this after I put in the PRL due to the downsides of weight, size, and throttle response issues. My remedy was to spend more money and put a more expensive intercooler that solved these issues. But if you are not feeling an urge to upgrade your intercooler and are content with the stock one, you're probably better off just sticking with stock.

OP, you could probably find a low mileage stock intercooler for sale from someone who is upgrading to aftermarket if you just want to replace your dinged up one. But I suspect their might be an anterior motive of wanting to simply upgrade your car, which is understandable with this platform.
Thank you for the input and first hand experience! Curious what IC did you end up going with and also curious if you were tuned and still experienced the throttle response issue? I am in the same boat with dps, inlet, intake and front pipe and exhaust. The turbos and fueling would be next for me so I may potentially do turbo and fueling and intercooler at the same time.
 

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Thank you for the input and first hand experience! Curious what IC did you end up going with and also curious if you were tuned and still experienced the throttle response issue? I am in the same boat with dps, inlet, intake and front pipe and exhaust. The turbos and fueling would be next for me so I may potentially do turbo and fueling and intercooler at the same time.
I ended up with the PWR intercooler.
Currently just have Hondata 93 basemap but looking into tuning options and possibly a turbo upgrade. That being said I'm happy with how the car drives right now.
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