Thanks for the reply. I think it is normal, but I have not really driven a car like this before, so I was not sure if it was normal or not.I haven't experienced this I don't think. I guess it depends on RPM's as far as engine braking goes.
If you are accelerating briskly, then abruptly let off throttle at like 4 or 5k RPM's, then yes, lots of engine braking. I haven't experienced anything negative or unexpected though.
I've definitely noticed the throttle lag in Comfort mode vs Sport+ mode, but I think I am just starting to notice more with the car itself.I'm fairly certain it's engine braking you're feeling. Personally my Lauda butt monitor tends to think that in Comfort mode the computer both retards the delivery of fuel when you push on the gas and keeps it flowing when you quickly let off the gas so it gives a smoother ride. In Sport+ mode I can feel it the moment I let go even a mm which is just how I like it.
When I got the car, I think it was the third drive where I forgot to put it into Individual mode(Sport+ engine) and I had this huge moment of panic/regret as I drove. It felt like I had a sponge between my foot and the pedal where as driving it home it felt decent. I was temporarily disappointed that I spent $60kCAD on the ITS and my Civic SI felt better to drive.I've definitely noticed the throttle lag in Comfort mode vs Sport+ mode, but I think I am just starting to notice more with the car itself.
What was the sponge issue? Had it in comfort mode?When I got the car, I think it was the third drive where I forgot to put it into Individual mode(Sport+ engine) and I had this huge moment of panic/regret as I drove. It felt like I had a sponge between my foot and the pedal where as driving it home it felt decent. I was temporarily disappointed that I spent $60kCAD on the ITS and my Civic SI felt better to drive.
Now that I'm more familiar I appreciate the finer details that allows me to have a more tame car in traffic, and a hell of a machine on open roads. I can still feel the 300lbs different between the two but I have absolutely no regrets after getting to know the car better.
Enjoy learning all the subtleties and don't worry about it.
The throttle lag. It's my physical analogy of what it feels like the computer is doing.What was the sponge issue? Had it in comfort mode?
Assuming what I am feeling is engine braking, I notice it more in sport+ mode than comfort mode. Also, I recently turned on rev match and noticed that it causes engine braking to lag a bit as the revs stay up a bit longer than a throttle blip.Do you all find engine braking noticeable? I could be coasting downhill, shift to 2nd hoping for engine braking to manage the speed but I don't feel there's enough so always have to apply the brake pedal.
It could definitely be how I drive in comfort mode vs sport+ mode. I rev it out more in sport+ mode. I have no other manual transmission sports cars to compare to.Just got back from a long "fun" drive. It engine brakes all it needs to, but that doesn't mean you don't need to apply the brakes. Engine braking doesn't really do all that much to actually slow the car down, at least not to the point where you'd want it to... brakes are there for a reason.
It is such a great car. So easy and rewarding to drive on good roads, within legal limits. Plenty of usable power that feels accessible and fun without rocketing you to lose-your-license territory in the blink of an eye. Not many cars can advertise that.
What works the best for me on these sorts of intentional drives for pure pleasure is Sport+ all the way, and VSA completely disabled. My Individual mode puts the suspension in Comfort but Sport+ is actually usable in this car you just want to make sure you're on the right roads unless you just like bouncing more (some people are weird and may prefer this...).
I notice the throttle response diminishing in the various modes, especially in Comfort, but it isn't hard to get used to. I mostly prefer Sport+ for the noise on the street but yes I definitely want the extra responsiveness if I'm doing track/auto-x stuff.
I'm not real sure why Sport+ would cause a more noticeable increase in engine braking. I'm not sure that's what's going on here... but IDK, it isn't really noticeably different than any other manual sports car I've driven in that regard.
Instantly, but I do have to remember it if I don't do it for a while.It could definitely be how I drive in comfort mode vs sport+ mode. I rev it out more in sport+ mode. I have no other manual transmission sports cars to compare to.
How long did it take you to learn the pedal dance to turn VSA completely off?
Not much engine braking and mostly just the sound of higher revs. I've spent a lot of time on tight mountain roads and sometimes ask, "why did I just downshift?" Mostly it's a habit from riding a 400lb motorcycle where engine braking has a bigger impact.Do you all find engine braking noticeable? I could be coasting downhill, shift to 2nd hoping for engine braking to manage the speed but I don't feel there's enough so always have to apply the brake pedal.