Best setup for 2 track weekends per year

[ElpacoSV]

No, unless you're lowered and limiting some range adjustment.

Your alignment above looks fine. I might target a little more camber in at the rear, to maybe 1.8 or 2.0 neg.

I don't believe castor is adjustable on this platform, so you get what you get. It would be lovely to have 8 degrees, lol! I doubt that would happen on stock arms. Likely needs quite a bit to get to 8.2 or so, but that would help a ton. On my racecar I ran 8.8 degree castor on a double wish setup! It was sitting at over -4 camber when loaded .

Otherwise all those targets look great. Car will be lively and rotate easily with a bit of oversteer on turn in (good).

Thanks for the info! I don't think using H&R spring can be considered Lowered...unless with your experience you say yes!

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[Victorofhavoc]

Thanks for the info! I don't think using H&R spring can be considered Lowered...unless with your experience you say yes!

Not sure what the range and effect from them is! I'm still stock with the type r ads on track

 

[optronix]

Is toe difficult to dial-in in this platform?

Not at all, I just haven't gotten my car to get an alignment since I noticed the tire was destroyed. I have a suspicion the toe has wandered on that right front wheel but I need to get off my ass and get it somewhere to find out.

Thanks for the info! I don't think using H&R spring can be considered Lowered...unless with your experience you say yes!

H&R appear to be the mildest option out there, but I'd definitely still consider it lowering the car.

The sad part about lowering this platform is it doesn't really offer any tangible benefits other than aesthetics. So you have to compensate for the deficits if you still want it to perform as well as it does stock... I genuinely enjoy the way this car looks lowered so I choose to deal with it. Fortunately the camber makes a big difference and brings the overall capabilities and (to me) sensations up to a level that I consider better than stock (disregarding the tire wear...), but I can tell there are still compromises. Bump steer is a good example- doesn't show up often but when it does it's annoying.

TL;DR, if you can live with the car at stock ride height, then you're better off leaving it there.

 

[alSpeed2k]

Some good advice in this thread! I'll add my $0.02

I started tracking in my S2000 in 2018 and this advice is based on my own personal experiences.

It's my only car pretty much, daily driver. I know I need to upgrade brake fluid and run better pads for next time... and I'd like to have a dedicated set of track tires and wheels, in 18" that I can just swap on and off.

Brake fluid is always recommended, I use SRF.

Brake pads are a wear item, so I think it makes sense to run better pads if you continue in this sport. Lots of options, I run Project Mu Club Racers on my FL5, but those may be overkill for you. When I first tracked my S2000, I ran Project Mu HC+800.

So, what's the optimal wheel/tire size with stock suspension? Is going 275 unnecessary? I'm still somewhat unschooled on camber. I'm told there is a way to very slightly adjust it with the factory parts. And if camber is worth upgrading parts for without sacrificing too much, any suggestions would be appreciated as well.

The answer to your wheel and tire question is, it depends, lol. A lot of guys seem to be opting for a 275 tire, personally I'll be trying a 265-18" tire this season. There's lot of info and reviews out there (from GRM, TR, Tyre Review, etc...), like this one:



As stated in the video, it's probably best to match the tire width to the wheel width; however, IMHO, it also comes down to driving style and driver feel.

For the stock tires, these are also a wear item. I think the PS4S are fine for the first couple times you're on track, but I would consider replacing them, just so you don't wear them out so fast. For a beginner, I would choose an endurance tire, because they're less peaky vs the super 200's. They also last a helluva lot longer. They won't be the fastest tire, but when you're starting out, you shouldn't be thinking too much about lap times.

I'm running the Conti ECF on one of my cars and it's been very durable. I've tried the RS4 on my friend's car before and it can turn lap after lap without overheating. One of the local shops also recommends the AD09s as a good consistent performer.

This chart from GRM (Grassroot Motorsports) is pretty good:

As for Camber, I'd remove the pin and max out stock camber then go from there.

Brake fluid and pads are pretty straightforward. But, are upgrading to Brembo pads enough, or are those just barely better than stock? Engine oil debate seems to be a mixed bag, I'm guessing I'm fine with stock specs there.

Are there even upgraded Brembo pads available for this car? Here's some more pad info here:
https://www.civicxi.com/forum/threads/brake-pad-manufacturer-model-compilation-thread.54351/

As for oil, again personal experience, no debate wanted or intended. I think I will run a good 5w30 oil. While I think a 0w20 will work, and seems to run cooler, it only needs to sheer once for me to regret this decision.

Good luck and have fun!

 

[ElpacoSV]

Not at all, I just haven't gotten my car to get an alignment since I noticed the tire was destroyed. I have a suspicion the toe has wandered on that right front wheel but I need to get off my ass and get it somewhere to find out.



H&R appear to be the mildest option out there, but I'd definitely still consider it lowering the car.

The sad part about lowering this platform is it doesn't really offer any tangible benefits other than aesthetics. So you have to compensate for the deficits if you still want it to perform as well as it does stock... I genuinely enjoy the way this car looks lowered so I choose to deal with it. Fortunately the camber makes a big difference and brings the overall capabilities and (to me) sensations up to a level that I consider better than stock (disregarding the tire wear...), but I can tell there are still compromises. Bump steer is a good example- doesn't show up often but when it does it's annoying.

TL;DR, if you can live with the car at stock ride height, then you're better off leaving it there.

I also prefere a lower car, but wasn't going eibach/swif low. H&R for me and my application are a good fit.

I'll be testing out camber angles and see what best suits my tastes and application (70/30 - Street/Track)

I'll follow your advice to have the front with more camber than the rear and report back!

Many thanks

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