• Welcome to Integraforums.com everyone!

    If you're joining us from CivicX.com, then you may already have an account here!

    As long as you were registered on CivicX.com as of May 24, 2020 or earlier, then you can simply login here with the same username and password!


Sponsored


vexingv

Senior Member
First Name
V
Joined
Apr 15, 2023
Threads
11
Messages
122
Reaction score
43
Location
Bay Area, CA
Car(s)
'24 ITS LCM/Red; '16 BMW M235-xdrive
I read that article and was going to post too...

I wonder if "sold" means sold to customers or sold/delivered to dealerships who have technically bought the cars initially? In the latter case, cars can still be sitting on dealership lots/showrooms.

In the same article, 3315 Type-R's were sold.
 

SilverRocket

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 23, 2023
Threads
6
Messages
202
Reaction score
269
Location
The Moon
Car(s)
'24 LSM ITS
What bugs me is the 1% mischaracterization. In reality I don't care how many they sell or don't sell but I think what bugs me is the pervasive twist the media puts on everything, car news not being immune to it either.

The civic is a hyper popular car and literally 99% of people are just looking to buy a reliable car that gets them from A to B.

The way they write it, it seems as if nobody wants the CTR instead of explaining it's purposely being limited by Honda. I'm almost sure if Honda said we'll make as many of these as people want, ADM would disappear overnight favoring dealers who will move high volume at MSRP and that number might even go up to 5%.

A fair comparison would be to judge it against other similarly special editions based on very popular vehicles and I think there's no better comparison than the F-150 to the Raptor.
 

ABPDE5

Senior Member
Joined
Jun 24, 2023
Threads
5
Messages
312
Reaction score
244
Location
ME
Car(s)
2024 Integra Type S
My takeaway was:
If you extrapolate ITS numbers out over 12 months of production (instead of 7), we are likely looking at similar ITS production rates to NA CTR allocations. This prediction was floating around, but had yet to be confirmed.
 

StingertimeNC

Senior Member
First Name
Tim
Joined
Sep 19, 2023
Threads
11
Messages
593
Reaction score
499
Location
NC
Car(s)
2024 Integra Type S
Of the CTR's sold, how many where in the U.S. though? Those are worldwide numbers, right?

ITS has already sold far more than CTR in the states I think.
 

Midnight_VTEC

Senior Member
First Name
Marco
Joined
Dec 6, 2022
Threads
3
Messages
111
Reaction score
104
Location
Alberta
Car(s)
DE5 Integra Type S
Pretty sure that’s Honda North America numbers only, worldwide the CTR is much higher I’m sure. Didn’t Japan have like some crazy number of orders locally or something? Also looks like Acura is building less that the CTR’s 400 a month over the shorter period.
 

ABPDE5

Senior Member
Joined
Jun 24, 2023
Threads
5
Messages
312
Reaction score
244
Location
ME
Car(s)
2024 Integra Type S
Of the CTR's sold, how many where in the U.S. though? Those are worldwide numbers, right?

ITS has already sold far more than CTR in the states I think.
It is absolutely NA or US allocations. Edit: no source... just all the numbers quoted have to be, for all the manufacturers. It wouldn't be feasible for those to be worldwide.

We have also heard rumblings from the beginning to expect a 50/50 split in NA, and looking at those #s / month... that's what we have.
 

StingertimeNC

Senior Member
First Name
Tim
Joined
Sep 19, 2023
Threads
11
Messages
593
Reaction score
499
Location
NC
Car(s)
2024 Integra Type S
ahh, ok. I thought the FL5 was slated for 500 unts in 2023 for NA. It seems like ITS' are flowing at a much higher rate, but maybe just because I'm on this forum and see much more chatter about cars showing up everywhere.
 

crepr12

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 2, 2023
Threads
1
Messages
261
Reaction score
153
Location
North East
Car(s)
24 ITS Black on Black
idk or care how many R were sold or not sold...jmho...I'm interetsed in ITS#s
 
First Name
Brian
Joined
Nov 13, 2023
Threads
1
Messages
18
Reaction score
10
Location
Austin, TX
Car(s)
2024 Integra Type S
ahh, ok. I thought the FL5 was slated for 500 unts in 2023 for NA. It seems like ITS' are flowing at a much higher rate, but maybe just because I'm on this forum and see much more chatter about cars showing up everywhere.
Your numbers are definitely way off. There are over 1800 Type R's on site/in transit right now:

https://www.motoringobsession.com/stock/civic-type-r

In comparison there are only around 300 Type S's on site/in transit currently.
 
Last edited:

optronix

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 15, 2023
Threads
18
Messages
962
Reaction score
1,478
Location
MD
Car(s)
2024 Integra Type S, 2023 Macan GTS
What I don't really get is that if people keep buying them, why not make more of them? Isn't that what good businesses do?

Why do they allow the dealers to pocket the pure profit, money-for-nothing "market value" and not just MAKE MORE CARS???

If it were me running the show I'd just charge more for them. If I were King Honda a CTR would cost $65k. Assholes want to pay that much, that's what it costs.
 

StingertimeNC

Senior Member
First Name
Tim
Joined
Sep 19, 2023
Threads
11
Messages
593
Reaction score
499
Location
NC
Car(s)
2024 Integra Type S
Wow, really low numbers for the ITS! Out of the 100 onsite or in transit, most of them are spoken for I'm sure.
 

nix6speed

Senior Member
First Name
Nick
Joined
Aug 5, 2023
Threads
2
Messages
297
Reaction score
365
Location
Houston
Car(s)
'24 LCM ITS
How can Acura sell so many when you can get the same manual passenger seat mechanism on a $20k Civic? We may never know.
 

ITSDAD

Senior Member
First Name
M
Joined
Dec 11, 2023
Threads
2
Messages
56
Reaction score
31
Location
Canada
Car(s)
2024 ITS
I wish they'd number plated the ITS' so I could stop hearing global Type R owner #16k explain how rare and special their CTR is jk...maybe 😝
 
 


Top