The difference is that the type-R is not just a slightly faster Civic. It's proper high performance hot hatch with a lot of bespoke parts.
It might make sense at or above $47K but I don't think many people would want to pay that much for a "Civic."
S3 doesn't get all the fancy stuff from Golf R...
2.0T 10AT FWD with about 275hp
- Acura loves Honda's parts bin. Integra's 1.5T powertrain came straight out of the Civic.
- The Integra Prototype had Brembos with painted A-spec wheels. IF the brake system was borrowed from the ITS, it would mean two things:
1. It won't get the Type-R's...
It's just a Hyundai/Kia thing.
There's some kind of agreement between the management and the union, IIRC.
Korean market only gets Korean built cars and North America only gets cars from North America and Korea.
That's why we can't get EU spec Hyundai/Kia here.
But they made i30/Elantra GT in...
They have i30N, i30 Fastback N, and i20N. We get nothing lol
Interestingly, they don't sell them in their home market either, so at least we know we're not alone.
Mazda is a mainstream brand. They have plans to evolve into a luxury brand, but that's not getting done anytime soon.
Most people here will probably agree that Acura's not premium enough to compete against real luxury brands. But it is still a luxury division of Honda.
That's what matters...
I agree there's nothing wrong with it performance wise.
Hell, even the fastest FWD production vehicle on the Nurburgring has torsion beam.
What I'm saying is that the Mazda 3 shouldn't be considered premium just yet, especially with the torsion beam set up.
It's perfectly acceptable for a mainstream compact hatchback. However it's unacceptable for anything with a premium badge.
So it's the very first thing they need to take care of before actually becoming a 100% premium brand.
TPMS, on the other hand, is absolutely necessary.
There's nothing...
0.8sec isnāt much.
But thatās compared to the LE.
Itās more than 2 sec quicker than the Megane RS Trophy R and Iām pretty sure that was quicker than the regular FK8.
Impressive lap times but I donāt see a huge hp increase happening either.
I think flat bottom wheels look cool, but I agree they are not really functional.
BMW is one of the brands that don't use flat bottom wheels. In fact, I heard one of the very first things Albert Biermann did at Hyundai was getting rid of the flat bottom wheels. They were putting them on Ioniqs...
I just don't think holding the hood while reaching for the prop is a luxury experience. Single gas strut would've been enough.
Tbh I personally don't mind a hood prop, but I think it's another example that shows Acura's not 100% sure what this vehicle is.
Outbackās a midsize so it needs one.
And I donāt know why but subaruās been pretty generous about that particular feature. WRX is the only sport compact with struts that I can think of.
I think anything premium should come with hood struts and that includes Integra.
I wouldn't call the core trim a disappointment just yet. It won't make much sense as a CTR/Golf R competitor, but different story against WRX, GTI and N.
So it will all come down to the pricing of the core trim.(and the circuit pack)
And it's supposed to be a "rally inspired" hot hatch, not a...