1998 Integra GSR

[JLSuperfly]

How much is this worth?
151k miles. Stock except for wheels and Recaro SRD seats. Two dings in the driver door. Power antenna makes weird noise when going up.

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[UWU-mancer]

Personally? I wouldn’t want to pay more than 4-5k for it

I mean no offense but that’s worth what someone’s willing to pay for it. A younger guy may see the b18 as something goated. However I’m old as fuck and had a gsr and i know how shitty that power train was. I see that as a car that will force me to buy a stolen L15b7, send it in to get built, then throw it into that integra.

hopefully you find a young sucker. They’re out there. One of em in my neighborhood got an rx7 the other day

 

[optronix]

Personally? I wouldn’t want to pay more than 4-5k for it

I mean no offense but that’s worth what someone’s willing to pay for it. A younger guy may see the b18 as something goated. However I’m old as fuck and had a gsr and i know how shitty that power train was. I see that as a car that will force me to buy a stolen L15b7, send it in to get built, then throw it into that integra.

hopefully you find a young sucker. They’re out there. One of em in my neighborhood got an rx7 the other day

I don't think this is a fair take at all.

I get it, that's why we're on the forums is to share opinions- but this one is rooted in nuance and strongly biased by things that aren't shared clearly in the context provided.

"Shitty drivetrain" from what perspective? Assuming the transmission, where I'm no old-school Honda expert (I was a S-chassis guy in the 90s/00s), but even I'm aware that the GSR wasn't as stout as the Type R and probably was a weak point- but what would someone be trying to do with it? Drag racing? And I wouldn't say the B18 is in the GOAT conversation at all, but it does absolutely have a strong nostalgic appeal- and why would anyone really consider buying a 98 GSR for anything but nostalgic appeal? Cars just do NOT sound like that anymore. Who cares if they feel like they couldn't accelerate their way out of a wet paper bag? That's missing the point.

Speaking of which. I literally had to look up the L15b7, and it was funny to discover that it was an engine that literally could star in a movie called "Engines I Don't Care About". Apparently people do that now, they put these soulless vacuum cleaner engines in cars they didn't come with? That's exactly what popped in my head, is "man I should buy an old 90s JDM car and spice it up with a boring turbo engine so I can run 13s in it at the drag strip". If B series ain't your jam, K swap? Maybe I'm just ignorant but I fail to see the logic there with the "L swap" suggestion- which before today I did not realize was a thing. Especially spending the money and energy to build it. I don't care if it makes 4-500whp, I just fail to see the point in an old GSR. Give me high-revving N/A all day- I know it's what we were all trying to do in the 90s is turbocharge everything but we didn't know how good we had it.

151k of non-abusive miles shouldn't be a major concern. It's interesting when people throw out "what I'd pay" numbers... like, would you ACTUALLY pay that? If this dude knocked on your door today and said "I'll take 5k for this GSR" you'd actually wire him the money right there? Or are you just tossing out an arbitrary figure of your personal worth, i.e., whatever is floating around in your head at the time you came across this post? Because you're dead on in the fact that it's worth what someone is willing to pay for it- and for that real data points are available. An "in my head" number is a data point, but usefulness is questionable.

That said, assuming the car is in tolerable condition the mileage and comps with real data suggest probably about double that; $8-10k would be a reasonable expectation.

The tricky part though is actually finding a buyer. Data is data- it won't magically place dollars in your bank account. You need to find someone who wants a GSR, and specifically a GSR.

Funny thing is, I literally just yesterday started thinking. I am ABSOLUTELY interested in a DC2 Type R. However, a guy out there had a very well built S2000 modded to the hilt, and it got me thinking that I would never, ever do that with a $40k+ Type R. But with a $8-10k GSR, build it up with ~$15k in parts? Sounds like that might be fun. As long as you keep the 2017 Si engines away from it.

Where are you located?

 

[UWU-mancer]

I don't think this is a fair take at all.

I get it, that's why we're on the forums is to share opinions- but this one is rooted in nuance and strongly biased by things that aren't shared clearly in the context provided.

"Shitty drivetrain" from what perspective? Assuming the transmission, where I'm no old-school Honda expert (I was a S-chassis guy in the 90s/00s), but even I'm aware that the GSR wasn't as stout as the Type R and probably was a weak point- but what would someone be trying to do with it? Drag racing? And I wouldn't say the B18 is in the GOAT conversation at all, but it does absolutely have a strong nostalgic appeal- and why would anyone really consider buying a 98 GSR for anything but nostalgic appeal? Cars just do NOT sound like that anymore. Who cares if they feel like they couldn't accelerate their way out of a wet paper bag? That's missing the point.

Speaking of which. I literally had to look up the L15b7, and it was funny to discover that it was an engine that literally could star in a movie called "Engines I Don't Care About". Apparently people do that now, they put these soulless vacuum cleaner engines in cars they didn't come with? That's exactly what popped in my head, is "man I should buy an old 90s JDM car and spice it up with a boring turbo engine so I can run 13s in it at the drag strip". If B series ain't your jam, K swap? Maybe I'm just ignorant but I fail to see the logic there with the "L swap" suggestion- which before today I did not realize was a thing. Especially spending the money and energy to build it. I don't care if it makes 4-500whp, I just fail to see the point in an old GSR. Give me high-revving N/A all day- I know it's what we were all trying to do in the 90s is turbocharge everything but we didn't know how good we had it.

151k of non-abusive miles shouldn't be a major concern. It's interesting when people throw out "what I'd pay" numbers... like, would you ACTUALLY pay that? If this dude knocked on your door today and said "I'll take 5k for this GSR" you'd actually wire him the money right there? Or are you just tossing out an arbitrary figure of your personal worth, i.e., whatever is floating around in your head at the time you came across this post? Because you're dead on in the fact that it's worth what someone is willing to pay for it- and for that real data points are available. An "in my head" number is a data point, but usefulness is questionable.

That said, assuming the car is in tolerable condition the mileage and comps with real data suggest probably about double that; $8-10k would be a reasonable expectation.

The tricky part though is actually finding a buyer. Data is data- it won't magically place dollars in your bank account. You need to find someone who wants a GSR, and specifically a GSR.

Funny thing is, I literally just yesterday started thinking. I am ABSOLUTELY interested in a DC2 Type R. However, a guy out there had a very well built S2000 modded to the hilt, and it got me thinking that I would never, ever do that with a $40k+ Type R. But with a $8-10k GSR, build it up with ~$15k in parts? Sounds like that might be fun. As long as you keep the 2017 Si engines away from it.

Where are you located?

I respect your take bro

the b18’s chug oil, eat distributors, have the oddest idle events and for no reason too and you’ll want to remove the intake manifold to clean oil blowby at least every 15-20k miles.

The trans is actually fine. Don’t throw a ton of tq at it tho. But the manual is fine with a few bolt ons.

when i see that car. I only see the potential of the front double wishbone. That’s it

the L15b7 can be had dirt cheap. Building the bottom end to take 350-400wtq is cheap too. You’ll want to address the oil pump tho. It’s a good engine. But yeah it sounds like shit but to be fair all modern turbo 4 bangers don’t sound great.

like i said. If op is selling im sure he will eventually find a dumb kid who will be willing to over pay for it.

now. If op would sell that with a freshly swapped L15b7, k20c1, k20-k24. Id dm him and immediately buy while i get my car “stolen” so insurance can handle it. No lie.

I’m near Denver Colorado

 

[optronix]

I respect your take bro

the b18’s chug oil, eat distributors, have the oddest idle events and for no reason too and you’ll want to remove the intake manifold to clean oil blowby at least every 15-20k miles.

The trans is actually fine. Don’t throw a ton of tq at it tho. But the manual is fine with a few bolt ons.

when i see that car. I only see the potential of the front double wishbone. That’s it

the L15b7 can be had dirt cheap. Building the bottom end to take 350-400wtq is cheap too. You’ll want to address the oil pump tho. It’s a good engine. But yeah it sounds like shit but to be fair all modern turbo 4 bangers don’t sound great.

like i said. If op is selling im sure he will eventually find a dumb kid who will be willing to over pay for it.

now. If op would sell that with a freshly swapped L15b7, k20c1, k20-k24. Id dm him and immediately buy while i get my car “stolen” so insurance can handle it. No lie.

I’m near Denver Colorado

Sorry I meant where is OP located, I know I didn't specify that sometimes I suck at communicating.

The stuff about the B18 is interesting, I was not aware... but now thinking about it I vaguely recall my buddy's B18B having weird idle events he couldn't figure out, until ultimately he blew his rings after slapping a turbo on it. Probably a shared issue I'm guessing.

But I wouldn't want a turbo anywhere near a car like this. Not even our K20C1 (or is it 8?)- although that would at least be more interesting. If the argument is "light car from the 90s", there are plenty of other options that aren't FWD- but even then, the double-wishbone is the one thing that sets this platform apart. I guess my mind always goes to turbo FWD = drag race applications, but that's short sighted. I feel like a 500whp turbo FWD car doesn't have much of a place in autocross or road racing either...

In any case. I was asking the OP where he was located because I might actually be interested, but I talked myself out of it... I want a Type R and only a Type R for personal reasons, but the performance ceiling was enough to tempt me.

 

[UWU-mancer]

Sorry I meant where is OP located, I know I didn't specify that sometimes I suck at communicating.

The stuff about the B18 is interesting, I was not aware... but now thinking about it I vaguely recall my buddy's B18B having weird idle events he couldn't figure out, until ultimately he blew his rings after slapping a turbo on it. Probably a shared issue I'm guessing.

But I wouldn't want a turbo anywhere near a car like this. Not even our K20C1 (or is it 8?)- although that would at least be more interesting. If the argument is "light car from the 90s", there are plenty of other options that aren't FWD- but even then, the double-wishbone is the one thing that sets this platform apart. I guess my mind always goes to turbo FWD = drag race applications, but that's short sighted. I feel like a 500whp turbo FWD car doesn't have much of a place in autocross or road racing either...

In any case. I was asking the OP where he was located because I might actually be interested, but I talked myself out of it... I want a Type R and only a Type R for personal reasons, but the performance ceiling was enough to tempt me.

I wondered why U asked no biggie. English isn’t my first language and I have horrible grammar

the b18 isn’t terrible. Like id rather it than a timing belt 4g63. For sure. It’s just not my jam. It’s vtec crossover is like having musical angels gang bang your ears though. You’ll definitely love it

personally if I had the space id buy one and build a L15b7 for it. Set it to take maybe 400 tq but keep it around 300whp and same in tq if possible. I don’t track anymore and my shifting is too shitty for the 1/4. I just hit nice fun roads with friends

in regards to the idling. They all occasionally experience that. I never learned what caused it. The internet wasn’t a widespread thing back then. I bet that’s solved. Gluck and grats if U decide to pull the trigger!

 

[JLSuperfly]

I am NorCal. I gave this car to my nephew years ago and he gave it back to me.

 

[optronix]

I wondered why U asked no biggie. English isn’t my first language and I have horrible grammar

the b18 isn’t terrible. Like id rather it than a timing belt 4g63. For sure. It’s just not my jam. It’s vtec crossover is like having musical angels gang bang your ears though. You’ll definitely love it

personally if I had the space id buy one and build a L15b7 for it. Set it to take maybe 400 tq but keep it around 300whp and same in tq if possible. I don’t track anymore and my shifting is too shitty for the 1/4. I just hit nice fun roads with friends

in regards to the idling. They all occasionally experience that. I never learned what caused it. The internet wasn’t a widespread thing back then. I bet that’s solved. Gluck and grats if U decide to pull the trigger!

I've been obsessed with K swapping something since I heard one in a Miata. And since my Porsche days I've been completely turned off by turbos. Ironic, I know. I view them as a necessary evil now, but for an Integra GSR it would absolutely be an "all motor" project. In that sense this particular car would be a very compelling project car for me, if the price was right.

I am NorCal. I gave this car to my nephew years ago and he gave it back to me.

Alas, the location doesn't work for me. Norcal is on the other side of the country. For the better though, I REALLY do want an unmolested DC2 Type R and I feel like a GSR project car would just be a distraction. But I can't be the only one who'd be interested. Depending on what you want to get for it; looking at it is a gift car that is literally just taking up space now, I feel like if you priced it at $8k it would go quick. Maybe even 10 and see what happens for a couple weeks...

 

[UWU-mancer]

I've been obsessed with K swapping something since I heard one in a Miata. And since my Porsche days I've been completely turned off by turbos. Ironic, I know. I view them as a necessary evil now, but for an Integra GSR it would absolutely be an "all motor" project. In that sense this particular car would be a very compelling project car for me, if the price was right.



Alas, the location doesn't work for me. Norcal is on the other side of the country. For the better though, I REALLY do want an unmolested DC2 Type R and I feel like a GSR project car would just be a distraction. But I can't be the only one who'd be interested. Depending on what you want to get for it; looking at it is a gift car that is literally just taking up space now, I feel like if you priced it at $8k it would go quick. Maybe even 10 and see what happens for a couple weeks...

I totally get that bro. I personally prefer positive displacement supercharged engines myself.

a b18 with some drag cartel cams, new valve springs so they don’t bind, head work, 4-1 header, skunk2 intake manifold and a few bolt ons plus tune will get U about 220-230whp. And you’ll be able to daily it fine as long as you don’t go crazy on the cam. Very tempting I’m sure

id rather a short cut. L15b7, built bottom end, 27won gin turbo, tune

I’ve got a few k swapped things in the shop. One of them leaks oil on a gtr

 

[akoza]

Take a look at Cars and Bids. Some examples of the GS-R with similar miles in the last few years have sold for high 4 figures or low 5 figures. Yours looks like it's in pretty good shape from the outside so I would imagine as long as it's good mechanically, you could likely sell it for a similar amount, at least on Cars and Bids.

 

[JLSuperfly]

My son doesn't want anything to do with this car. He loves the modern amenities of his ASpec. Ha.

What is K swap? I am an old man.

 

[optronix]

My son doesn't want anything to do with this car. He loves the modern amenities of his ASpec. Ha.

What is K swap? I am an old man.

Honda's K series engines, they were the successor to the B/H/F series engines that came with the late 90s/early 00s cars like your GSR. They're just more modern and very straightforward to drop in with minimal alterations.

It's a really compelling enthusiast platform, but again- someone like me would have to be laser focused on that specific build. Or as @UWU-mancer says, find some young person who just wants the old school steez and will drive it as it is. You're better off with the latter if you want to actually get decent money for the car I would imagine; people like me would want to score a project car on the cheap and do all sorts of nasty racecar-type things to it.

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