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if you want something new and fun to drive just buy a GR86 or a Miata and buy a used suv to haul shit.

radley is msrp, at sticker the markup is built in imo. I cancelled mine. If I wanted one bad, i can pay 5k over for a FL5 and still be cheaper and its more special of a car imo.

Tell me about it, I'm in Arlington.

obviously some places are going to be be hit harder than others, Texas has overbuilt but where I live in DC the prices are still increasing.

I sat in those recaros and they were not comfortable, test drove a fiesta st and RS. It had a awkward seating position. However the recaros in the evo 9's were so comfotable and it cradled me like a mother holding a baby. So really really depends on the seat. I've only sat in the FL5 seats...

Type R seats was comfortable for me but I'm 5'11 and 12% bodyfat. I want special seats in a special car, not something you'd get in a camry.

I could've worked with 52k if it had SH-AWD. I see absolutely no value at the released price. We're talking, taxes, tags and dealers fees 60k for a fwd car.

I can only go from pictures cause I never sat in a integra but they look like bench seats, not a performance ones. 50k+ Type R seats covered in leather is expected.

I dont see housing market to crash like 08. So many people are locked in 3% mortage, they're not selling.

you can get a lightly used s5 hatch for 50

Yeh I spend too much on hoes and blow for a car for a 2mile commute.

if you’re dropping mid 50s for a car, whats another 10 grand. Honestly I would never drop that kinda money for a car but there are people that do. ITS is a cool car in the mid40s, completely lost my interest at current price imo.

not my first choice but for 33k, wouldn't bother me.

Ford really had a chance to shake things up by dropping a 4 dr mustang

No, fed up the rates another quarter. Youll get 6% with 800 credit and 8% and up with mid 7s

I'm digging the refresh, Matt Farah said its 95% performance of the type R for 2/3 of the price.

I've been buying cars for 20 years, I've honestly never seen a preorders get cancelled. There is min 5 now here, not including reddit Take that for what you will but 50k tarted up civic is a hard sell, especially in this economy.

holy shit sign me up

if it does come it'll be watered down like the 20th model... won't get the Akrapovic exhaust or power increase.

people actually give the govmint a interest free loan?