$500 deposit to reserve Integra Type S on Acura.com starting May

TeggyTypeS · Apr 25, 2023

Spoke with a friend who is a salesman at my local Acura store and he told me this morning Acura has advised them that stating early next month(May) you will be able to go online and place a $500 deposit down on your ITS and chose which dealer it gets shipped to. This aligns with other rumors I heard earlier in the year. No idea on pricing yet but he said they expect mid 40’s. This should help keep dealer markups to a minimum since we are keeping track of what dealers are and aren’t charging ADM’s and if everybody just sends their orders to the dealers not adding ADM’s.

TeggyTypeS · Apr 25, 2023

5/11 is what another dealer advised as the date for orders to open.

TomK · Apr 25, 2023

Think the 200 launch production will sell out quickly?

Understeer · Apr 25, 2023

TomK said:
Think the 200 launch production will sell out quickly?

yes its only 200

TeggyTypeS · Apr 25, 2023

Understeer said:
yes its only 200

200 what? They haven’t announced any special launch editions

24DE5TypeS · Apr 25, 2023

I’ve also been told that only 200 will be available for launch. My dealer told me they will only be allocated 5 thru the end of the year. That seems very low to me. What I’m not sure of is if dealers are able to convert their deposits into online reservations once they open up. My salesman said something about maybe getting a few more allocations if they switched to Braintree orders. Not sure on that whole process yet.

RUNN1N · Apr 25, 2023

24DE5TypeS said:
I’ve also been told that only 200 will be available for launch. My dealer told me they will only be allocated 5 thru the end of the year. That seems very low to me. What I’m not sure of is if dealers are able to convert their deposits into online reservations once they open up. My salesman said something about maybe getting a few more allocations if they switched to Braintree orders. Not sure on that whole process yet.

I wouldn't count on "converting" a dealership deposit into an online deposit, or for a dealership employee putting in an online deposit on my behalf. I've got two deposits out there at dealerships, fully intend to put in online deposits as well just as a safeguard. It's all refundable. I doubt dealerships getting online deposits will help them get extra allocations for the year.

CivicSi84 said:
200 what? They haven’t announced any special launch editions

There's a rumor going around that 200 Type-S' will be available in the first wave for the June on-sale date. Whether or not 200 is the actual number, there's naturally going to be a limit on what they can move from production to dealer lots early on in the process. There was a dealership claiming there was a "Launch Edition" with a bunch of "Acura-mandated" add-ons, but this was debunked, just a dealership trying to squeeze extra money out of a buyer with a markup by another name.

chenc544 · Apr 25, 2023

Assuming on average each dealer is getting 5 Type-S for rest of 2023, that seem to be around the number people have been hearing from their dealers. Google says there are 274 Acura dealers in the US. So that works out to be 1370 Type-S build after the launch in June. That averages out to Acura building 228 cars/month for the remaining 6 months of the year. 200 cars at launch seem to checkout if that's about how many Acura can build in a month especially taken into account initial ramp up/learning curve for the new trim. That puts total Type-S production expectation at around 1600 cars for 2023.

I believe the number that has been around is that CTR US allocation is ~4000/year. If we extrapolate the Type-S production number to a full year it's ~2750 units. That seem reasonable for Honda/Acura to expect the sales of ITS to be. Just doing some sanity check on numbers and I think they all seem to add up or in the ballpark.

24DE5TypeS · Apr 25, 2023

RUNN1N said:
I wouldn't count on "converting" a dealership deposit into an online deposit, or for a dealership employee putting in an online deposit on my behalf. I've got two deposits out there at dealerships, fully intend to put in online deposits as well just as a safeguard. It's all refundable. I doubt dealerships getting online deposits will help them get extra allocations for the year.

There's a rumor going around that 200 Type-S' will be available in the first wave for the June on-sale date. Whether or not 200 is the actual number, there's naturally going to be a limit on what they can move from production to dealer lots early on in the process. There was a dealership claiming there was a "Launch Edition" with a bunch of "Acura-mandated" add-ons, but this was debunked, just a dealership trying to squeeze extra money out of a buyer with a markup by another name.

So are you going to place the online reservation at other dealers that you haven’t put deposits at? Are the dealers where you place these orders still able to charge over MSRP? That would suck to place one only to have them pulling that ADM crap out once it arrives.

Understeer · Apr 25, 2023

chenc544 said:
Assuming on average each dealer is getting 5 Type-S for rest of 2023, that seem to be around the number people have been hearing from their dealers. Google says there are 274 Acura dealers in the US. So that works out to be 1370 Type-S build after the launch in June. That averages out to Acura building 228 cars/month for the remaining 6 months of the year. 200 cars at launch seem to checkout if that's about how many Acura can build in a month especially taken into account initial ramp up/learning curve for the new trim. That puts total Type-S production expectation at around 1600 cars for 2023.

I believe the number that has been around is that CTR US allocation is ~4000/year. If we extrapolate the Type-S production number to a full year it's ~2750 units. That seem reasonable for Honda/Acura to expect the sales of ITS to be. Just doing some sanity check on numbers and I think they all seem to add up or in the ballpark.

I think the numbers will be about 15x that. If chevy can sell nearly 30k corvettes a year, Acura can build least half that.

RUNN1N · Apr 25, 2023

24DE5TypeS said:
So are you going to place the online reservation at other dealers that you haven’t put deposits at? Are the dealers where you place these orders still able to charge over MSRP? That would suck to place one only to have them pulling that ADM crap out once it arrives.

I plan to put online reservations at the same dealers where I have deposits. If it helps them get my specific allocation so I can get the car in the exact combo I want, great. If it doesn't, it just comes off my purchase price at whichever dealership gets the car in first, and the other refunds the unused deposits.

A reservation through Acura doesn't help you get the car at MSRP. You still need to shop around, and you can call/email now to ask what they intend to add to the vehicle accessory-wise and/or add to the MSRP for the vehicles they get. If you aren't working this out in advance, you're guaranteeing you'll be surprised when it comes in.

Understeer · Apr 25, 2023

RUNN1N said:
I plan to put online reservations at the same dealers where I have deposits. If it helps them get my specific allocation so I can get the car in the exact combo I want, great. If it doesn't, it just comes off my purchase price at whichever dealership gets the car in first, and the other refunds the unused deposits.

A reservation through Acura doesn't help you get the car at MSRP. You still need to shop around, and you can call/email now to ask what they intend to add to the vehicle accessory-wise and/or add to the MSRP for the vehicles they get. If you aren't working this out in advance, you're guaranteeing you'll be surprised when it comes in.

hoping the launch color combo isn't limited like rumored.

RUNN1N · Apr 25, 2023

Understeer said:
hoping the launch color combo isn't limited like rumored.

There's naturally going to be some type of limit--they only switch out paint colors after they produce 30-40 vehicles.

js4square · Apr 25, 2023

chenc544 said:
Assuming on average each dealer is getting 5 Type-S for rest of 2023, that seem to be around the number people have been hearing from their dealers. Google says there are 274 Acura dealers in the US. So that works out to be 1370 Type-S build after the launch in June. That averages out to Acura building 228 cars/month for the remaining 6 months of the year. 200 cars at launch seem to checkout if that's about how many Acura can build in a month especially taken into account initial ramp up/learning curve for the new trim. That puts total Type-S production expectation at around 1600 cars for 2023.

I believe the number that has been around is that CTR US allocation is ~4000/year. If we extrapolate the Type-S production number to a full year it's ~2750 units. That seem reasonable for Honda/Acura to expect the sales of ITS to be. Just doing some sanity check on numbers and I think they all seem to add up or in the ballpark.

I think the ITS allocation will be higher than the CTR. We have to remember the ITS is made exclusively for the US and Canada Market. CTR is only made in Japan for the worldwide market. No reason why they cannoy build more ITS than CTR. Now… what will be the market demand is another thing and we should expect low stock for sure for the first few months and Acura will move its production accordingly. It is not a car for the mass.. its not an RDx so its pretty hard to predict how popular it will really be.

RUNN1N · Apr 25, 2023

Understeer said:
I think the numbers will be about 15x that. If chevy can sell nearly 30k corvettes a year, Acura can build least half that.

@chenc544's breakdown and thought process is actually pretty good--how many Corvettes Chevy can pump out isn't relevant to the number of Type-S' Acura can/will produce. They're apples and oranges.

If Acura sells 2,500 Integras in a good month (they did this in February 2023), they're going to want to keep that going, then add to that number Type-S sales (ideal, business-wise) or convert a fraction of those 2,500/month to Type-S sales (probably more realistic). These cars share the same production line, but they're going to be pretty different price points and very different target customers. Might the Type-S make up just 10% of the total Integras built/sold? It seems possible. The Type-R was a very small fraction of the total Integras sold each year.

They have to make what they can sell.

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