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Whelp, I did it. Traded in my 10-month-8k-mile FL5 for a new DE5. After some intense deliberations, I ultimately landed a deal that netted a $$ wash. I found a dealer that was extremely aggressive on the trade and kept the markup in check which was surprising in this region (socal). After...

Good point. Many dealers in CA did carry heavy markup but I didn't bother negotiating with them. In addition to the ITS I was looking at other cars... (M3, IS500, S5, CT4-BW) with no markup and the trade-in amount was fairly consistent regardless.

Yeah, I just agreed to terms on an ITS which includes 52k for my CTR trade. I'll post more details later. The market maybe shifting but I certainly haven't experienced it.

I would imagine because that's what the market says they're worth (like real estate, stock, michael jordans, wine, or whatever else). It's no magic secret - they take a look at what they've been selling at auction (typically Manheim) or other means and offer accordingly. Here's a snip from MMR...

Believe it. I've been actively looking for an ITS and most of my trade in offers for the CTR are well into the $50s at over 8k miles. I wouldn't bother swapping if it wasn't...

Give it some time...ITS still has 'new kid on the block' syndrome that plagued the FK8 and even the FL5 early on but will die down once everyone's done with the chest thumping. It's 0-60 and 1/4 mi are luke-warm by today's standard but some additional track focused metrics like C&D's lightning...

Considering FL5s are currently selling for ~53k at auction (Manheim) this isn't all that far fetched for retail.

Yep, for me track days are seasonal here in CA and I won't do any events outside Oct-May.

I'm afraid it's far more than that. There's reputation, experience, delivery, and entertainment value none of which this random provides. We're hungry for more content, but I'd soon starve then listen to this neckbeard ramble on about short gearing in a sports hatch...

Since the active valve is located near the back of the exhaust, it should not change. The amount of sound increase a DP has over stock depends on the cat used or if includes one at all. On the FL5 a catted DP like the two step along with a PRL FP nets a minimal change.

Had my 2nd test drive over the weekend which was great, but I noticed a potential issue with the drivers seat. On the test drive I felt something poking my bum as though I left something in my back pocket. When we got back, my pockets were empty so I took a closer look at the seat. On the bottom...

In my experience in the FL5, no. How you use your right foot, regardless of mode, has the greatest impact on fuel economy.

K&N part# 33-2454 and for ~60 bucks, hard to beat.

I ran my 1st track day (FL5) 100% bone stock. I did nothing other than tape on numbers and install the tow hook that comes stock. I've heard one is not included with the DE5 so that maybe you're first order of business, especially if your promoter requires it. GridZilla has some decent FL5...

Not surprised. I found very little outside of enthusiast circles understands or 'gets' the Type R. Unfortunately many will never see anything beyond it being a winged civic. Having owned an FL5 for almost a year now I had to accept that people either get it or they don't with the majority being...

Interesting as I'm looking to go the other way. Outside of frequent track duty, I feel the ITS to be superior and far more compelling...

Wow that was complete utter trash and an hour of my life I'll never get back...

Thanks - I was able to locate an ABP in Bakersfield that initially had some markup but they seem motivated to sell. We have a framework for a deal that I hope to wrap up this week.

As a potential buyer, that makes me feel a bit better. I will do a test drive before signing but normally don't rip it too hard.

Source? Weird that they stated testing a 2nd car vs disabling TC.