You’re 100% right. It’s just preference. I’m fortunate to have a 6 speed v8 for the weekends. Or whenever I want to row. But it’s nice to have the auto. And what’s nice about acuras CVT tuning vs their 10 speed tuning is that in S, it’ll go all the way to the redline. The paddles are extremely quick and responsive. Plus in heavy traffic, being able to “barely drive” with stop and go cruise is also great.I agree, it just depends on where you are on stick shift versus automatic. If you really want to shift definitely buy a manual. And if you are energetic and don’t mind the work, enjoy that 200HP manual that you have to work more often. I did just that several times, I’ve been stick shifting various 200HP Civic Si’s most of my life, and the shifting is always fun. Until you hit traffic of course. I’m just tired, ready for a break with a sporty faster automatic, or at least something less demanding with more manual power. I want the cool automatic features like remote star and automatic low speed traffic follow. I want to accelerate with ease, grace, and precision. I want no brainer low gas mileage. And I’m willing to give up that fun stick shifting feeling to get that. You may not be willing to do so. I think ideally I’d have both types of cars, a manual for the weekends and an automatic for the weekdays. Or paddle shifters that was actually manual and not computer driven system that only accepts your inputs as suggestions. And no one can tell you your personal preference, a test drive will not completely solve this for you, you have to experience the car for yourself over time. That new Integra could be your endgame vehicle for all I know. It could do everything you really want. There is only one way to find out really, draw upon your experiences and what you have heard, and take a chance on your best educated guess for your next vehicle. If you strike out, trade it in after 3 years and try again.
Agreed, she is very quick for passing.I'm sure your not going to be racing other cars and the car isn't lethargic at all. When I need to pass cars the car has enough power to do it even in 6th gear. I am on 93 octane not sure what everyone is using but I never feel like I need power to pass people
For sure. Don’t second guess at all.If only the CVT had a LSD then, great to hear your CVT Integra experiences. I’m not as down on the stick as I was earlier this week, but I still think I will want something, more power, dual clutch Type-S Integra, I dunno. I’m just going to drive this for a year and reassess then. Otherwise I just drive myself nuts double guessing.
Thoughts on a Lexus? Not sure why they're not talked as much compared to the A3 and other competitors.You are right, I don’t have experience with Honda’s more modern CVTs. And in retrospect I do think I would have been happier with the Interga’s CVT save for the lack of a LSD. And that LSD is hugely important. I’ll just leapfrog to the TLX Type-S with SH-AWD.
Price. I went to talk numbers on one maybe 7 months before I got the teggy. Awd started at 43k. To get heated seats, sound system and sunroof I was damn near 47k and at that point it wasn't worth it. Interior is super nice in that car but drive was so-so. I can see myself getting bored with that car if It was 42k for everything I would have taken it home thoughThoughts on a Lexus? Not sure why they're not talked as much compared to the A3 and other competitors.
I have driven CVTs for the last 12 years! They were from Subaru so not the worst in the market. It was fine in low rpms but the high rpm drone and the rubber band effect was tiresome. I was ready to move as soon as the 6 MT Integra was announced!Have you driven the CVT? Your concerns are exactly why I went the CVT route. Short gearing, low redline, and high clutch engagement aren’t fun for older folks like us. You mention that it needs a non CVT AT, but if you’ve never driven it, I don’t think you can fairly make that statement. The CVT is quite refined. Sounds good, shifts well, has VERY “manual” characteristics, and easily gives me 30+ mpgs.
Yeah I really hate when I hit a back road and get stuck behind someone going 5 or 10 under and braking at each turn.I hear you NeoD. But at 66 I did enjoy having a winding up and down backroad with no traffic yesterday morning in our Si. It was good fun to enjoy some shifting that related to turn entries and all that. I would really miss doing this sometimes.
But yes things have changed since twenty years ago. That chance early on a Saturday morning to have some open road used to be the daily norm. Now I follow people from Florida who are intimidated by curves and/or hills. No chance for glory.
And I changed too. Over that time I gained the means for some truly fast cars, and had a fair bit of track experience. Still though, that teenager in me learning to shift on slow cars on mountain roads needs a smile. Our Gen 9 fills the bill for now.
Right, I’m not really looking to drive all that fast, but just taking somewhat technical curves at the speed limitish, carrying momentum and catching the shift, a heel toe or two going into a turn. Driver involvement, feeling vibrations of the drivetrain in my hands and feet.Yeah I really hate when I hit a back road and get stuck behind someone going 5 or 10 under and braking at each turn.
You are exactly 180 out on this. In a corner, the outside wheel needs to spin faster than the inside one, because it is going around the arc of a circle that has a larger radius than the wheel on the inside by the distance of the track of the car. Also, the inside wheel is unweighted relative to the outside wheel, because in corners cars lean the wrong way. A differential allows for the wheels to spin at different rates of speed without damaging anything or dragging/pushing the wheels. Unfortunately, with an open differential, as soon as one wheel breaks traction - the inside one while cornering, because it is has less weight on it than the outside wheel - it steals power from the outside wheel. LSD's counter this through different forms of wizardry to send the power to the wheel that actually has grip allowing any vehicle with an LSD to power through corners better than a similar one with an open differential....In a turn...especially in a spirited turn, as the turning forces put a bit more weight on the inside wheel, and thus the inside wheel needs to spin faster than the outside wheel for the drive forces to be equal on both sides...