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Having driven the Mazda in 6MT, its a lot more... numb than the Honda/Acura. Its a comfortable ride sure, but not really what I'd call sporty.

I'm out of the loop, what "basic luxury features" are you specifically referring to?

And yeah, CTR would have been the answer, except both like you said $5k ADM, so now its $50k. Then its only $2k difference to get something that actually has a power seat. I'll continue to defend and buy manuals as long as I possibly can. And Honda does make the best ones. For a lot of people...

Yeah the Elantra N and Golf R are really the only things even close. The GR Rolla is, well, impossible to get in my searches and the ITS is larger and basically in a different segment. Same with the Mini's, probably not crosshopping with a large hatchback (even if the ITS is considered a...

Yeah the CT4/CT5 start at 70k, the Charger is auto only (challenger is) broco is a truck, and the M's are similarly expensive. So you have Golfs, Civics, and...? A WRX that pretty much loses in all the comparisons? Edit: I'm intentionally leaving out the Elantra N, its probably a good car but...

The manual is the only reason I'm looking at the ITS. The CTR is always marked up and treated like gold. The CT4 would be great but the manual in those starts at the blackwing which is like 70k+. BMW doesn't have the manuals in anything other than the M's. Mercedes and Audi don't even offer a...

They did say it was refundable, and I actually made the $500 deposit. At this point however it seems like the Acura website preorders are going to be $500 refundable deposit, so maybe that's the best way to go forward.

Classic seems to have been on the shitlist already, but this is what they told me: Classic Southeast Texas sells all of their new Acura, Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, and Kia vehicles at MSRP+Addendum+TT&L. The Dealer Addendum is priced at ($3,994.00) and includes Quantum Ceramic Coating...

Shame they couldn't hear the laughs, I always message dealers via email or text, just for the paper trail

Actually I take that back. They clarified that it'll include ADM + ACC: Around $5,000-$10,000. Our Gillman Accessories includes: - All Season Mats - Cargo Tray - Nitrogen Air in the Tires - Wheel Locks - Clear Door Edge Guards - Clear Door Cup Protection - Clearshield Clear Coat Protectant -...

Yep, Team Gillman Acura is Houston TX

Sterling McCall seems not to want my business as they won't respond to me. Did you have an email address of a direct person? I don't trust when salesmen try to do call-only.

Team Gillman Acura - $3000 Deposit David McDavid Acura of Austin - $500 Deposit, $499 Tint, no ADM on preorders (I went with them for now)

Houston TX, John Eagle Acura - $1000 non-refundable deposit, $5000 ADM