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They are tiny, it's just like when the 10th gen came out, people said it was too big until they saw it next to the 9th gen. The biggest difference was the hood not sloping down as much which made it look significantly bigger without a reference car. The longish hood had the same effect for the...

That's true, it's just people ALWAYS compare generations which is why there are judgements going around. From 8th to 9th to 10th, in terms of engine alone, they lowered the redline but increased torque every time. Still lots of crying involved despite the pro of torque, this time it's not...

That's exactly what I said, which brings me back to my original point. If honda says both cars are 205hp but the previous gen is known to be underrated, the actual usability will be less. And it's not like the mx5 ND1 vs ND2 where they're basically the same power until one hits redline and the...

Based on the dyno results of the non-Si models it may be more than 5hp loss at the wheel across the whole powerband which is why people are so disappointed. 11th gen dynos lower than the honda's numbers (which is standard) and 10th gen dynos close to honda's numbers. Apparently the reflash...